$0.99 - A Rabbi Looks at the Last Days by Jonathan Bernis (Vyrso)

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 10 2015 8:31 PM

Ephesians 2:11            Romans 11:18   

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Into Grace | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 10 2015 9:40 PM

DAL:

Who cares about Jews anyway it's not about being a Jew anymore it's about being a Christian. Jews and Gentiles are one body by the sacrifice Jesus made. Being a Jew doesn't give you any advantage whatsoever. If you had any advantage you lost it for being stiff neck and uncircumcised always resisting the Holy Spirit of God. This book is a joke the only reason I don't bother to return it it's because it's 0.99 cents. Repent you Jews and become Christians instead of messianic Jews and the light of God will shine upon you. Leave your arrogance behind and mingle with us Gentiles and become one body with us like Jesus, a Jew, intended. Stop playing the victim this is what the book is doing, making the Jews a victim. Satan is attacking all Christians and he's been doing so for the longest but that doesn't mean it's a sign that the end is near. Wake up and smell the coffee is not about being a Jew it's about being a Christian!

DAL

Dal,

Your posts in this forum have benefited many, including myself. I take exception to your statement above. As a Christian, your anti-Jewish rant offends me. Time does not allow me expound in more detail. 

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Into Grace | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 10 2015 9:41 PM

Super.Tramp:

Ephesians 2:11            Romans 11:18   

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 10 2015 9:58 PM

Into Grace:

I take exception to your statement above. As a Christian, your anti-Jewish rant offends me. Time does not allow me expound in more detail. 

Thank you Into Grace. You said what needed to be said far better than the post I choose not to post.

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Jonathan J Watson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 10 2015 10:15 PM

Please remain mindful of the forum guidelines: 

Phil Gons:

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2. Please do not discuss or debate biblical, theological, or other controversial topics. Use one of the many web forums intended for these kinds of discussions.

3. Please treat each other with the love, courtesy, respect, and kindness that you would if you were sitting in your living room together.

You might consider one of these two topics over at Christian Discourse: 

http://christiandiscourse.com/t/jews-gentiles-church-of-god/505

http://christiandiscourse.com/t/israel-and-the-church/205

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Ann Hudson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 10 2015 11:25 PM

David Paul:

DAL:

Who cares about Jews anyway it's not about being a Jew anymore it's about being a Christian. Jews and Gentiles are one body by the sacrifice Jesus made. Being a Jew doesn't give you any advantage whatsoever. If you had any advantage you lost it for being stiff neck and uncircumcised always resisting the Holy Spirit of God. This book is a joke the only reason I don't bother to return it it's because it's 0.99 cents. Repent you Jews and become Christians instead of messianic Jews and the light of God will shine upon you. Leave your arrogance behind and mingle with us Gentiles and become one body with us like Jesus, a Jew, intended. Stop playing the victim this is what the book is doing, making the Jews a victim. Satan is attacking all Christians and he's been doing so for the longest but that doesn't mean it's a sign that the end is near. Wake up and smell the coffee is not about being a Jew it's about being a Christian!

DAL

Hmm

Tongue Tied..., Tongue Tied

Jonathan J Watson:

Please remain mindful of the forum guidelines: 

You might consider one of these two topics over at Christian Discourse: 

http://christiandiscourse.com/t/jews-gentiles-church-of-god/505

http://christiandiscourse.com/t/israel-and-the-church/205

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Rayner | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 11 2015 5:42 AM

MJ. Smith:

Into Grace:

I take exception to your statement above. As a Christian, your anti-Jewish rant offends me. Time does not allow me expound in more detail. 

Thank you Into Grace. You said what needed to be said far better than the post I choose not to post.

Yep, agree.  That response was anti-Jewish.  I do not wish to contribute to this debate, but neither do I want statements like that to go unchallenged.

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 11 2015 8:50 AM

I am thankful for the author's calling to witness to the Jewish community in a loving and knowledgeable way. I may not agree with his premise regarding end times, but the main take away for me is his calling and God's blessing up it. There is a lesson in there for all of us.

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 11 2015 10:33 AM

John Fidel:

I am thankful for the author's calling to witness to the Jewish community in a loving and knowledgeable way. I may not agree with his premise regarding end times, but the main take away for me is his calling and God's blessing up it. There is a lesson in there for all of us.

Exactly right.

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Tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 11 2015 11:05 AM

Rayner:
Yep, agree.  That response was anti-Jewish.  I do not wish to contribute to this debate, but neither do I want statements like that to go unchallenged.

So what are we going to do, take a vote? Hmm  

What if I also disagree with your view point, does that make me anti-Jewish? Confused   

I agree with most of DAL´s post,  (I personally would have reworded a sentence or two Huh?).  

I am also disappointed with the book, only read the first paragraph of the books description before buying (,https://vyrso.com/product/29223/a-rabbi-looks-at-the-last-days-surprising-insights-on-israel-the-end-times-and-popular-misconceptions) :(   

I too though I was getting a "new view point" from an orthodox Jew,but now since I have read the conclusion, I find all I get is the same old same old. :(  

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 11 2015 12:27 PM

Tom Rach:

Rayner:
Yep, agree.  That response was anti-Jewish.  I do not wish to contribute to this debate, but neither do I want statements like that to go unchallenged.

So what are we going to do, take a vote? Hmm  

What if I also disagree with your view point, does that make me anti-Jewish? Confused   

I agree with most of DAL´s post,  (I personally would have reworded a sentence or two Huh?).  

I am also disappointed with the book, only read the first paragraph of the books description before buying (,https://vyrso.com/product/29223/a-rabbi-looks-at-the-last-days-surprising-insights-on-israel-the-end-times-and-popular-misconceptions) :(   

I too though I was getting a "new view point" from an orthodox Jew,but now since I have read the conclusion, I find all I get is the same old same old. :(  

Thank you Tom! Finally someone who thinks things in a reasonable way! 

Ps. By the way, rewording wouldn't have helped anyway.  When you tell arrogant people the truth, it doesn't matter how much you sugar coat it, it's never gonna sit well with them.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 11 2015 12:29 PM

Jonathan J Watson:

Please remain mindful of the forum guidelines: 

Phil Gons:

. . .

2. Please do not discuss or debate biblical, theological, or other controversial topics. Use one of the many web forums intended for these kinds of discussions.

3. Please treat each other with the love, courtesy, respect, and kindness that you would if you were sitting in your living room together.

You might consider one of these two topics over at Christian Discourse: 

http://christiandiscourse.com/t/jews-gentiles-church-of-god/505

http://christiandiscourse.com/t/israel-and-the-church/205

Thank you Jonathan! 

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 11 2015 6:55 PM

George Gates:

David Paul:

DAL:

Who cares about Jews anyway it's not about being a Jew anymore it's about being a Christian. Jews and Gentiles are one body by the sacrifice Jesus made. Being a Jew doesn't give you any advantage whatsoever. If you had any advantage you lost it for being stiff neck and uncircumcised always resisting the Holy Spirit of God. This book is a joke the only reason I don't bother to return it it's because it's 0.99 cents. Repent you Jews and become Christians instead of messianic Jews and the light of God will shine upon you. Leave your arrogance behind and mingle with us Gentiles and become one body with us like Jesus, a Jew, intended. Stop playing the victim this is what the book is doing, making the Jews a victim. Satan is attacking all Christians and he's been doing so for the longest but that doesn't mean it's a sign that the end is near. Wake up and smell the coffee is not about being a Jew it's about being a Christian!

DAL

Hmm

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James Hiddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 11 2015 8:47 PM

Jonathan J Watson:

Please remain mindful of the forum guidelines: 

Phil Gons:

. . .

2. Please do not discuss or debate biblical, theological, or other controversial topics. Use one of the many web forums intended for these kinds of discussions.

3. Please treat each other with the love, courtesy, respect, and kindness that you would if you were sitting in your living room together.

You might consider one of these two topics over at Christian Discourse: 

http://christiandiscourse.com/t/jews-gentiles-church-of-god/505

http://christiandiscourse.com/t/israel-and-the-church/205

A reminder of this post since some didn't read.

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David Roberts | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 11 2015 11:26 PM

I missed it by one day

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William M. Harper | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 14 2015 1:54 PM

Well, I apologize that my quote from this book ignited such a contentious debate in this forum. That was not my intent in posting it. To me this book, other messianic books and even Orthodox Jewish books are extremely valuable resources to have in my library. I find it interesting to study the Jewish perspective on the Scriptures. I also consider the Messianic Jews to be my brothers and sisters in the LORD. I pray for Jewish people who do not yet know Yeshua HaMaschiach (Jesus the Messiah). Many thanks to Logos, the publisher and the author for making this ebook available at such a great discount!

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James Hiddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 14 2015 5:02 PM

William M. Harper:

Well, I apologize that my quote from this book ignited such a contentious debate in this forum. That was not my intent in posting it. To me this book, other messianic books and even Orthodox Jewish books are extremely valuable resources to have in my library. I find it interesting to study the Jewish perspective on the Scriptures. I also consider the Messianic Jews to be my brothers and sisters in the LORD. I pray for Jewish people who do not yet know Yeshua HaMaschiach (Jesus the Messiah). Many thanks to Logos, the publisher and the author for making this ebook available at such a great discount!

Don't apologize you had no idea it was going to get heated in here.

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Mike Pettit | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 14 2015 5:55 PM

James Hiddle:

William M. Harper:

Well, I apologize that my quote from this book ignited such a contentious debate in this forum. That was not my intent in posting it. To me this book, other messianic books and even Orthodox Jewish books are extremely valuable resources to have in my library. I find it interesting to study the Jewish perspective on the Scriptures. I also consider the Messianic Jews to be my brothers and sisters in the LORD. I pray for Jewish people who do not yet know Yeshua HaMaschiach (Jesus the Messiah). Many thanks to Logos, the publisher and the author for making this ebook available at such a great discount!

Don't apologize you had no idea it was going to get heated in here.

That's why we should not post theological statements, what you may think is common sense or uncontroversial may not seem that way to others.

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 16 2015 12:08 AM

Not posting a theological statement - just scripture...

Jeremiah 31:33 - “But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares Yahweh: “I will put my law in their inward parts and on their hearts I will write it, and I will be to them God, and they themselves will be to me people.

Matthew 15:24 - But he answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

From those passages, everyone may decide whether Jewish believers have a "special stand" compared to gentile believers.

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