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Brian W. Davidson | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Feb 17 2015 12:50 PM

Is it possible in the iOS app to run a simple lemma search for all the forms of a Greek word in the LXX? Bible word study is no good for the LXX.

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 17 2015 1:09 PM

No, this isn't supported in the mobile apps.

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Adam Olean | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 17 2015 1:23 PM

Brian W. Davidson:

Is it possible in th iOS app to run a simple lemma search for all the forms of a Greek word in the LXX? Bible word study is no good for the LXX.

Hi, Brian. If you have it, try the Septuaginta: SESB Edition. In my experience, it works a whole lot better on mobile apps than the Septuagint with Logos Morphology. It seems that the apps just can't handle all of the extra tagging and interlinear data that comes with Logos's LXX. They have major problems with Hebrew as well, as I have reported on the Android Beta forum, although, I recall the iOS app having similar problems.

Alternatively, when a Bible Word Study occasionally fails in the Septuaginta: SESB Edition, I find that searching for the Greek form of the word (as it occurs in the text) will sometimes succeed in finding it in one of my lexical resources. In the Android App, it helps that you can perform searches in recent resources. In the iOS app, I think you might be able to search collections, which would be even better. The Lexham Analytical Lexicon to the Septuagint is particularly well suited for such searches. LSJ also seems pretty thorough in listing various spellings and inflected word forms. Searching by biblical reference might be another—or even a superior—option in more exhaustive lexicons. I hope this helps!

Edit: I should add that the Bible Word Study "translation" section will not work might work(?) with the Septuaginta: SESB Edition, although the "definition" section does display lexical resources on my Android app, which is the most essential part for my purposes. (Actually, scratch that. On the Android app, when I set the Lexham English Septuagint as my preferred Bible in the settings menu, I can at least confirm that I do get results in the "translation" section. I don't have time to check on an iOS device, but maybe it's possible after all!)

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Adam Olean | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 17 2015 5:55 PM

Brian W. Davidson:

Is it possible in the iOS app to run a simple lemma search for all the forms of a Greek word in the LXX? Bible word study is no good for the LXX.

By the way, Brian, I realize that when you stated that "Bible word study is no good for the LXX," you may not have intended to convey that it is "no good for the LXX [at all]"—as in it does not work, perform any useful tasks or functions, or give any useful or reliable results at all (such as displaying lexicons in the "definition" section or English glosses in the "translation" section). You may have been speaking specifically in reference to tasks such as displaying all occurrences of a lemma in the LXX or portions therein. In that case, my response is really no help at all! That said, I think a mobile-app lemma search would be incredibly useful!

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Brian W. Davidson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 17 2015 6:08 PM

Thanks, Adam. Indeed the Bible Word Study is very helpful, especially for the LXX, where one often needs to look up a word in a few lexicons to understand exactly what is going on. But yes, I want to be able to run a simple morph search for all the occurrences of a word. I really want to be able to do this apart from BWS, but the translation ring would be better than nothing.

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Adam Olean | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 17 2015 6:32 PM

Brian W. Davidson:

Thanks, Adam. Indeed the Bible Word Study is very helpful, especially for the LXX, where one often needs to look up a word in a few lexicons to understand exactly what is going on. But yes, I want to be able to run a simple morph search for all the occurrences of a word. I really want to be able to do this apart from BWS, but the translation ring would be better than nothing.

For some reason I have never paid much attention to the translation ring on the mobile apps. I can see that it would have some utility in a pinch. That said, I agree that a "simple morph search" would be much more preferable. Sign me up!

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Brian W. Davidson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 26 2015 8:53 AM

Please allow us to search original language texts for all forms of a given word, a basic lemma search, without having to use the translation ring of the BWS.

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Kevin Byford (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 26 2015 10:24 AM

Please see here for instructions on how to make suggestions.

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Brian W. Davidson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 13 2015 11:27 AM

I need to rally support for a simple "find all instances of this greek word" search?  Does this mean a lemma search isnt currently on the radar for the mobile app? 

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