My precondition to sign up to "Logos Now"

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Tes | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Apr 10 2015 2:11 AM

As it has been metioned in another thread, I am going to sign up, if the Payment will be possible to pay annual billing for  89.99 USD. I expect Faithlife to confirm it.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2015 2:39 AM

Tes:
As it has been metioned in another thread, I am going to sign up, if the Payment will be possible to pay yearly 89.99 USD. I expect Faithlife to confirm it.

For those who hasn't seen the reference that Tes refers to - Phil Gons speaks about this in https://community.logos.com/forums/p/103245/713750.aspx#713750 where he says "We'd like to offer annual billing eventually, which would be $89.99"

Tes - I doubt if you will get any more on this until / if Faithlife are able to introduce this.

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2015 8:27 AM

Graham Criddle:

Tes:
As it has been metioned in another thread, I am going to sign up, if the Payment will be possible to pay yearly 89.99 USD. I expect Faithlife to confirm it.

For those who hasn't seen the reference that Tes refers to - Phil Gons speaks about this in https://community.logos.com/forums/p/103245/713750.aspx#713750 where he says "We'd like to offer annual billing eventually, which would be $89.99"

Tes - I doubt if you will get any more on this until / if Faithlife are able to introduce this.

Thanks for the Link Graham. I think this will help for those of us ,who are outside of the US to reduce the payment of the mothly bank fee and two years free.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2015 8:57 AM

Tes:
two years free.

Just to clarify - this is "two months per year" freeSmile

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2015 9:08 AM

Graham Criddle:

Tes:
two years free.

Just to clarify - this is "two months per year" freeSmile

Thanks Graham for the correction.

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2015 12:42 PM

Bump.

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2015 12:54 PM

Tes:

As it has been metioned in another thread, I am going to sign up, if the Payment will be possible to pay annual billing for  89.99 USD. I expect Faithlife to confirm it.

i agree this would work out cheaper for overseas customers like you and I Tes and would like to see this option. We will as it is have to deal with varying exchanges rates which means the monthly fee for us will never be a fixed amount along with bank rate conversion fee charges. But I won't go as far as making it a pre-condition to signing up.  Logos have already stated this is a technical issue to be resolved rather than it being a simple policy issue. i will give them the benefit of the doubt that they are working to resolve that issue.  

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2015 12:58 PM

Graham Criddle:
Just to clarify - this is "two months per year" free

That's not the only point, there might be additional fes for the overseas transactions with credit cards in Europe, so I would like to save those, too.

$90 is a bit expensive for the propositional outlines Sad, but I might live with that Indifferent. (If I find something else useful, I can think it as bonus Cool)

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2015 1:04 PM

Disciple of Christ (doc):
Logos have already stated this is a technical issue to be resolved rather than it being a simple policy issue

For me this sounds like an excuse by a politician ...

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2015 1:13 PM

I understand where you are coming from because Logos are notorious for releasing things half baked and fixing them later, I would have rather they sorted out these issues before going live, but I don't have all the details on this particular issue.  I don't trust a lot of their marketing, but I don't believe a Logos employee would deliberately tell a lie to customers hence giving them the benefit of the doubt. But for each person it is a personal choice.  

Veli Voipio:

Disciple of Christ (doc):
Logos have already stated this is a technical issue to be resolved rather than it being a simple policy issue

For me this sounds like an excuse by a politician ...

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2015 1:15 PM

Veli Voipio:
For me this sounds like an excuse by a politician ...

In essence, you are saying that FL is lying... that isn't fair. If you doubt FL, stop using their products! 

FL would LOVE to sell customers a yearly subscription to Logos Now... and they will once they get things taken care of.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2015 1:18 PM

Disciple of Christ (doc):
I understand where you are coming from because Logos are notorious for releasing things half baked and fixing them later, I would have rather they sorted out these issues before going live

AKA Bob's "release early, release often" philosophy. I don't like it either.

Disciple of Christ (doc):
I don't believe a Logos employee would deliberately tell a lie to customers hence giving them the benefit of the doubt.

+1 Yes

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2015 2:13 PM

My precondition is to know what resources will be included commentary wise and books. If NICOT/NT, Hermeneia, WBC and other Great reputable commentaries are included, then sign me up for five years straight. But if it's going to be mediocre content resources wise then I'm not interested.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2015 3:37 PM

What on earth are you talking about DAL? Logos Now does not contain an independent resource library ... you have in Logos Now what you have in your desktop library.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2015 3:41 PM

alabama24:

Disciple of Christ (doc):
I understand where you are coming from because Logos are notorious for releasing things half baked and fixing them later, I would have rather they sorted out these issues before going live

AKA Bob's "release early, release often" philosophy. I don't like it either.

Has anyone noticed that Faithlife is moving to a more disciplinesd 6 week cycle? Or that the Logos Now features have generated few questions or problems? How 'bout attributing some of that to the ability to beta test much more thoroughly in a disciplined, incremental release environment. Quit griping about what is in the process of changing for the better and join me in griping about resources released without basic indexes.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2015 3:49 PM

MJ. Smith:

What on earth are you talking about DAL? Logos Now does not contain an independent resource library ... you have in Logos Now what you have in your desktop library.

MJ everybody's talking about resources also being included in logos now but they have never said which resources. As I have said before they're only talking about features and data sets and some so called exclusive discounts for subscribers, but Nothing else is being said or cleared up about the so called resources being included.  This is what I dislike about faithlife's premature announcements, they are never clear and always shady. As loyal customers I don't think we deserve that!

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 10 2015 8:02 PM

DAL:
everybody's talking about resources also being included in logos now but they have never said which resources

I haven't read anything about that from FL. As far as I know, "Logos Now" does not carry books, nor have their been any indication that books would be included. 

DAL:
This is what I dislike about faithlife's premature announcements, they are never clear and always shady. As loyal customers I don't think we deserve that!

I have troubles when people throw out words like "shady." We can debate how well and/or effective FL has been in various product launches (I think they have been getting better), but I have NEVER had any reason to doubt the integrity of Bob and his team.

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DAL:
Nothing else is being said or cleared up about the so called resources being included

I'm not sure where you're hearing about these "so called resources"; this post from Phil says what's in Logos Now: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/103245/713695.aspx#713695 

As per https://www.logos.com/now (which lists "Early access to a growing library of data, media, and interactive content"), Logos Now includes datasets, interactives, media and tools, not "book" resources.

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Kent | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 11 2015 6:09 AM

Disciple of Christ (doc):
I understand where you are coming from because Logos are notorious for releasing things half baked and fixing them later, I would have rather they sorted out these issues before going live

A result of the Microsoft culture- Get it out quickly to the customer, stay ahead of the competition, keep them buying the latest and greatest, and fix it on the go.

Having new products to sell to the existing (loyal) customer base while offering the shiny new toy to attract new customers is how software companies continue to expand their business. And the larger the core product the more problems with integration of new features i.e. bugs.

That said, my view (from the outside looking in) of Logos as a business is they are a company that has displayed integrity not found in the world and the grace to do what is right.

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JH | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 16 2015 5:13 PM

Tes:

As it has been metioned in another thread, I am going to sign up, if the Payment will be possible to pay annual billing for  89.99 USD. I expect Faithlife to confirm it.

The annual rate is now available, no? At least I see this when logged in:

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