What happened to Ceslas Spicq’s The Epistle to the Hebrews!?!?!?

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Ryan Burns | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, May 1 2015 12:30 PM

Was looking at my community pricing orders and... it disappeared. Apparently, it isn't even on the site anymore: The Epistle to the Hebrews.

Last time I checked, it has reached the level needed to move out of community pricing. I was SUPER excited that translation might actually begin. Now... POOF! Gone.

Anyone know the story?

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 1 2015 12:38 PM

Ryan Burns:
Anyone know the story?

No, but I am very curious as to what is going on.

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 1 2015 1:03 PM

Hmmm ... this is weird.

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William Gabriel | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 1 2015 1:04 PM

I'd like to know as well.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 1 2015 1:06 PM

It even disappeared from my pre-pub orders!

DAL

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 1 2015 1:11 PM

I'm guessing that it is undergoing the same transition/upheaval that this title did...it disappeared, showing the same "it's not here" screen, and then reappeared. Probably just site maintenance.

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 1 2015 1:12 PM

DAL:

It even disappeared from my pre-pub orders!

Me too.  Nooooooooooooo!

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I want to confirm that Faithlife will not be pursuing this project at this time. We know that many customers were looking forward to this project, and so were we, however due to unforeseen circumstances we made the decision to not continue at this juncture.  

Translation projects are a massive undertaking and we made the decision to put our ressources into other projects. 

We're very sorry, we would have liked to have seen this title come to fruition (I placed an order on pre-pub before I was an employee). 

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 1 2015 6:23 PM

Thanks for letting us know Joseph. It is disappointing but understandable. Perhaps some day...

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Lew Worthington | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 1 2015 8:43 PM

I appreciate the explanation, but why not just offer it in French?

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 1 2015 9:02 PM

I hope an email went out to those who had placed an order.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 2 2015 2:39 AM

Lew Worthington:
I appreciate the explanation, but why not just offer it in French?

I would suspect it would be a supply and demand issue.

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Paul-C | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 2 2015 3:54 AM

I'm disappointed to see this resource won't make it into publication, but in fairness to Faithlife, they promoted it well via blog posts, etc., and gave us a long time to get the orders in to make it work. Sadly, as Bruce says, it looks like the demand wasn't there. Sad

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Lew Worthington | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 2 2015 8:45 AM

Bruce Dunning:

Lew Worthington:
I appreciate the explanation, but why not just offer it in French?

I would suspect it would be a supply and demand issue.

Of course. But offering it as a pre-pub will help determine what the demand is. That's what I was getting at. I should have been more specific.

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Rayner | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 2 2015 4:37 PM

I had this on pre-pub too. Darn.  I am guessing its lack of publication is due to some kind of internal resourcing issue which won't get further discussion in public.  However, I do feel that if there were more academics on the site, from a wider range of traditions, Logos could become quite innovative and forward thinking in undertaking translation projects for which there would be more demand.  

(And before somebody jumps at me for complaining about a lack of multi-traditioned academics, I'd like to point out that the current Master journal bundle fails to be broad enough to be of interest to many in mainstream seminaries / universities, which I think is indicative).

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Lew Worthington | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 2 2015 5:33 PM

Rayner:


(And before somebody jumps at me for complaining about a lack of multi-traditioned academics, I'd like to point out that the current Master journal bundle fails to be broad enough...).

I will only jump at the chance to agree with you. Smile

I often feel like my academic perspectives and tastes are so far outside the Logos norm that I end up buying most resources because there's nothing else I can relate to. Ok, I'm exaggerating. But I do agree with you.

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 2 2015 5:41 PM

Not surprising, given the amount of work. I hope they'll put this on fast track if they renew the project.  

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Erik | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 4 2015 5:11 PM

So was this the result of the level of effort required on the part of Faithlife or at the request of the publisher?  According to this email that went out today, it was the latter.

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Order update: The Epistle to the Hebrews

You are receiving this email because you pre-ordered The Epistle to the Hebrews.

Unfortunately, at the request of the publisher we had to retire this Pre-Pub. Since it may be available again in the future, we are leaving your pre-order on file for you.

You can review and adjust your order here. We apologize for any inconvenience.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 4 2015 7:18 PM

THAT almost sounds like the rights holder had an objection to the translator or something.

Sad

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 4 2015 8:52 PM

Lew Worthington:

I often feel like my academic perspectives and tastes are so far outside the Logos norm that I end up buying most resources because there's nothing else I can relate to. Ok, I'm exaggerating. But I do agree with you.

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