[ACK 6.4] Logos 6 (OS X)—Shortcut Icon in Dock?

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Patrick S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 23 2015 2:15 AM

For anyone interested in some of the technical background to this you can read my post here

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/105299/729065.aspx#729065

Essentially on the Mac Logos has changed it to be an 'application within an application', I gather for the purposes of improving how Logos is updated.

If one looks at the contents of the Logos Bible Software 6 app (see my other post) they will see this...

the 'Current' folder is a Mac Unix soft link as can be seen if one does a folder listing...

Patricks-MacBook-Air:Versions patrick$ pwd
/Applications/Logos.app/Contents/Frameworks/FaithlifeDesktop.framework/Versions
Patricks-MacBook-Air:Versions patrick$ ls -la
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 4 patrick admin 136 May 13 05:58 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 patrick admin 170 May 13 05:58 ..
drwxr-xr-x 6 patrick admin 204 May 13 05:58 6.3.0.38
lrwxr-xr-x 1 patrick admin 8 May 13 05:58 Current -> 6.3.0.38

it shows that 'Current' points to the actual version folder. As the app path is a soft link OS X shows the soft link indicator in the UI. Of course it must be noted also that this is not a standard OS X way of working - which is why you do not see the soft link indicator for any other Mac OS X application.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 23 2015 7:37 AM

Thanks for the post Patrick,

Is fact that I almost always open Logos from Spotlight the reason that I am not seeing this on my icon?

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Reuben Helmuth | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 23 2015 7:51 AM

Mike Binks:
Is fact that I almost always open Logos from Spotlight the reason that I am not seeing this on my icon?

No, I tested this and it still appears (after the second restart). That got me thinking about your workflow and I thought that perhaps you don't have the icon "kept in the dock." Am I right about this? In other words, when you quit the application does the icon disappear from your dock? I tried it this way (both from spotlight as well as my normal method, launchpad) and since each time it's essentially a "fresh" icon, that ugly arrow never shows up! I rarely used the dock to launch Logos, but had locked it to the dock, partially to give it a place of preeminence among my apps. Big Smile 

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Patrick S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 23 2015 7:52 AM

Mike Binks:

Thanks for the post Patrick,

Is fact that I almost always open Logos from Spotlight the reason that I am not seeing this on my icon?

Could well be - it has to be remembered that what Logos Faithlife is doing on the Mac is not 'Mac like' and things may break. As I mentioned earlier I also notice that if I launch Logos 6 from the dock I also see (which did not happen previously) that the screen (on my Macbook Air) flashes black for an instant.

I have tested and if I pin Logos 6 to the dock at first it is OK, but after about 2-3 loads it shows the alias/shortcut like change to the icon. I've just removed it and now load from Spotlight.

I joke a bit about the Pritchetts coming to get me, but the fact remains that having an 'app within an app' is unusual on the Mac hence we see things like this. Anyway I am sure the developers have investigated it and if there are any problems they will fix them.

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Charles | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, May 23 2015 4:39 PM

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John Goodman:

I just removed it and put it back - all fine...

When I remove the icon and put it back, it also looks fine... but only for awhile. Eventually the shortcut icon reappears. 

This and the problem with the "Services" menu no longer working makes me wonder if anyone at Logos tested 6.3 on a Mac?  Sad

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 24 2015 12:14 AM

Reuben Helmuth:

Mike Binks:
Is fact that I almost always open Logos from Spotlight the reason that I am not seeing this on my icon?

No, I tested this and it still appears (after the second restart). That got me thinking about your workflow and I thought that perhaps you don't have the icon "kept in the dock." Am I right about this?

You are indeed Reuben. Seeing as I launch most applications from Spotlight I have never really bothered about what was pinned to the dock – and when I checked Logos wasn't.

As you can imagine; if the arrow did appear on my icon it would not affect me too much apart from the constant itch about the time for fulfilment of a  promise about a program being 'built for the mac from the ground up' seems to be receding into the distance.

Sure it sort of works; but the things that make a mac such a joy in other programs seem to be missing from this kludge.

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Reuben Helmuth | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 24 2015 5:35 AM

Mike Binks:

it would not affect me too much apart from the constant itch about the time for fulfilment of a  promise about a program being 'built for the mac from the ground up' seems to be receding into the distance.

Sure it sort of works; but the things that make a mac such a joy in other programs seem to be missing from this kludge.

I definitely feel your pain!!Confused On the other hand...when I look at my friend's BibleWorks, I'm VERY grateful for how much more Mac-like the Logos interface is!!! If I had to use BW, this would definitely be me: Crying

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 28 2015 9:19 PM

I was baffled by the behavior of the icon in the dock, but mostly because I usually like to customize my dock icons. Hopefully they can figure out how to make it operate normally. No problem at all in Windows.

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Tommy Turnbow | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 3 2015 1:56 PM

Here's a one up from the rest of the discussion.  I have read the entire thread, and my icon actually goes one step further.  On my 2015 Macbook Pro 15" the icon is fine until I open Logos 6.  At that time the icon on the doc switches to a document shortcut icon, meaning a blank white "sheet of paper" with the shortcut arrow at the bottom left.  No Logos "cross in a magnifying glass" at all.  If I remove it from the dock, and then put it back from the applications folder, it looks fine until I open Logos 6.  At that point it's back to square one.  No big deal, but annoying and ugly!  BTW, I just migrated to the new macbook Pro.  This behavior was not present on my previous Macbook Pro 2011 running Yosemite.  Go figure!

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Reuben Helmuth | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 3 2015 6:50 PM

Tommy Turnbow:
Here's a one up from the rest of the discussion.  I have read the entire thread, and my icon actually goes one step further.

If it's still the same issue, then the problem is fixed in 6.4 which is in beta right now. According to the 6 week release cycle 6.4 should ship on or around the 29th of this month. If you don't wanna wait until then, you can join the beta (after reading all the caveats!) by entering "set update channel to beta" into the command box.

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Tommy Turnbow | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 4 2015 5:24 AM

Thanks for that, Reuben.  I think I will do that.  I actually participated in the beta of Logos 4, and enjoyed the experience!

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Mike Mobley | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 4 2015 7:34 AM

Is there any ETA on this 6.4 fix so it can fix the dock problem?

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 4 2015 8:08 AM

Mike Mobley:

Is there any ETA on this 6.4 fix so it can fix the dock problem?

See Reuben's analysis two posts above your—Sometime around June 29.

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Jim Erwin | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 20 2015 2:17 PM

I see the same problem on my Mac. It makes it a document shortcut. I look forward to this being fixed in 6.4

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Rafe Andersen | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 26 2015 6:39 PM

For future reference, if I was to update to beta, is there anyway to go back to stable?

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 26 2015 10:41 PM

Rafe Andersen:

For future reference, if I was to update to beta, is there anyway to go back to stable?

It depends upon what you mean by "go back to stable." Yes, you can change your update channel back to stable and when the next release comes out GREATER THAN the beta you are using, it will download. No, you cannot go from beta to stable during the beta cycle... at least not without performing a COMPLETE reinstall. 

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Rafe Andersen | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 27 2015 4:57 PM

Ok thanks. 

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