[resolved] VF for Granville Sharp without Logos Now?

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, May 26 2015 1:58 PM

Does someone have a VF for finding all the Granville Sharp constructions in the NT without resorting to a Logos Now subscription?

If so, can you post a screenshot or a link to a FL group Documents page?

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elnwood | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 26 2015 2:05 PM

Rick Brannan wrote a paper on searching for Granville Sharp constructions. I think the conclusion was that it couldn't be done without including invalid constructions or excluding genuine GS constructions.

https://www.logos.com/media/blog/PDF/Granville%20Sharp%20Rule.pdf

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 26 2015 2:10 PM

elnwood:

Rick Brannan wrote a paper on searching for Granville Sharp constructions. I think the conclusion was that it couldn't be done without including invalid constructions or excluding genuine GS constructions.

https://www.logos.com/media/blog/PDF/Granville%20Sharp%20Rule.pdf

Can you get close? Close enough to manually edit out the ones that don't fit?

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 26 2015 2:13 PM

elnwood:

Rick Brannan wrote a paper on searching for Granville Sharp constructions. I think the conclusion was that it couldn't be done without including invalid constructions or excluding genuine GS constructions.

https://www.logos.com/media/blog/PDF/Granville%20Sharp%20Rule.pdf

BTW, that paper (I just noted) is dated 2006. The search capabilities of Logos have increased exponentially since then (should have been L3 at that date, right?).

Do you suppose anything has changed?

(Thanks for the link, BTW!)

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 26 2015 2:18 PM

Doc

It's quite old but you might find the discussion at https://community.logos.com/forums/t/5030.aspx interesting.

Edit: Note this is using Syntax searches so you can't create a Visual Filter from it

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 26 2015 2:19 PM

Graham Criddle:

Doc

It's quite old but you might find the discussion at https://community.logos.com/forums/t/5030.aspx interesting.

Well, Graham, I'm quite old too, but still interesting. Hmm

Thanks for the link.

[Edit: Looks like it was spun out of the pdf link posted earlier.  All discussion is welcome, though.]

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Dominick Sela | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 26 2015 2:22 PM

This goes back!

Back in 2010 I worked my way through constructing them using some articles, books (noted in the thread) and a version in one of the articles from Logos 3:

https://community.logos.com/forums/t/5030.aspx

But that's for interest - there is a Faithlife group Logos Syntax Searching that has the two searches I built there!

You can easily join that group and grab a copy of these syntax searches. It had been a few months since I looked at them but they still run perfectly in Logos 6 (I tried in Logos 5 previously, I use them to test new versions in part now); the numbers in parens are the number of results you should get back:

Enjoy!

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 26 2015 2:32 PM

Dominick Sela:
This goes back!

Dominick,

I just finished reading a number of your posts about this.  You did a lot of work in L4.

Has L6 changed anything?

I'll download the FL documents and play with them.  Thanks for jumping in.

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 26 2015 2:39 PM

Unfortunately, this is the response I got from running the search the first time. 

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Dominick Sela | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 26 2015 3:23 PM

I am on Verbum 6.3, and it runs fine, sorry you had that problem! 

The searches have run perfectly with same results for me since version 4.

Did it run ok when you tried again? If not turn on logging and post your log files - that crashes needs to be squashed.

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 26 2015 8:59 PM

Dominick Sela:
Did it run ok when you tried again? I

I waited until I got home and ran it on a different computer. It worked fine there.

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