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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2010 5:38 AM

As I troll frequent the forum I've taken to having a notepad file open with frequently dispensed information in it for quick copying. I'm just getting started and I'm wondering what links/file locations you find yourself frequently having to lookup.

Here's what I have so far.

C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Local\Logos4\Data\<random>\ResourceManager\Resources

Missing Features
http://www.logos.com/4/missingfeatures

WIKI sites
http://wiki.logos.com/Diagnostic_Logging
http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4_Video_Tutorials
http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_Visual_Glossary

Libronix resources
http://blog.logos.com/archives/2009/12/using_your_new_logos_4_resources_in_logos_3_or_logos_for_mac_1.html
htp://www.logos.com/support/downloads/ldls
C:\Program Files (x86)\Libronix DLS\Resources

What should be added to it?

 

 

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 5:47 AM

http://wiki.logos.com/Installation_and_Indexing_FAQ%27s

Wiki Links: Enabling Logging / Detailed Search Help - MacBook Pro (2014), ThinkPad E570

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 5:59 AM

Kevin Becker:

 

i have been to this page numerous times and I still come away not knowing what the heck to do!  Hmm  It is written a bit to brief and techish, on many fronts, for this dude.  Nothing bad is meant by that, other than it does not help me, in slow-down-smell-the-roses-mode, on how I enable logging for Logos.

I like Apples.  Especially Honeycrisp.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 6:14 AM

Kevin Becker:

C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Local\Logos4\Data\<random>\ResourceManager\Resources

That works for Vista and Windows 7. For XP it's:

C:\Documents and Settings\<UserName>\Local Settings\Application Data\Logos4\Data\<random>\ResourceManager\Resources

More useful links:

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/7879.aspx (Mark Barnes' "How to Ask for Help")
http://community.logos.com/forums/p/341/3265.aspx#3265 (Bob Pritchett's post on the license agreement)
http://wiki.logos.com/Quick_Installation_onto_multiple_computers
http://logos.com/comparison (the base packages comparison chart)
http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4_Release_Notes
http://www.logos.com/products/info/guides (Product Guides - guides to various product cateogories)
http://wiki.logos.com/Metadata_correction_proposals
http://community.logos.com/forums/t/8883.aspx (Bradley's info & warnings about installing beta versions)
http://downloads.logos.com/LBS4/Installer/Logos4Setup.exe (direct download of the L4 installer)
http://www.logos.com/support/techfaq#sysreqs (system requirements for L4)
http://www.logos.com/about/contact (Logos contact info)
http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_Email_Addresses (More Logos contact info)
http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4_Keyboard_Shortcuts_For_Windows

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 6:31 AM

Dan DeVilder:

i have been to this page numerous times and I still come away not knowing what the heck to do!  Hmm  It is written a bit to brief and techish, on many fronts, for this dude.  Nothing bad is meant by that, other than it does not help me, in slow-down-smell-the-roses-mode, on how I enable logging for Logos.

I've clarified the wording in some of the sections of that page which should help you know how to enable logging permanently. Come back at me if it's still not clear enough to you. It's beyond the scope of that page to explain how to edit the registry as it's generally not recommended except for advanced Windows users. However I've added a link to an article explaining all about the registry and how to edit it, along with the "standard disclaimers" about it. How you become an advanced Windows user is by spending lots of time reading articles like that and probing into all the stuff they link to... Smile

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 7:45 AM

Rosie Perera:

Dan DeVilder:

i have been to this page numerous times and I still come away not knowing what the heck to do!  Hmm  It is written a bit to brief and techish, on many fronts, for this dude.  Nothing bad is meant by that, other than it does not help me, in slow-down-smell-the-roses-mode, on how I enable logging for Logos.

 

I've clarified the wording in some of the sections of that page which should help you know how to enable logging permanently. Come back at me if it's still not clear enough to you. It's beyond the scope of that page to explain how to edit the registry as it's generally not recommended except for advanced Windows users. However I've added a link to an article explaining all about the registry and how to edit it, along with the "standard disclaimers" about it. How you become an advanced Windows user is by spending lots of time reading articles like that and probing into all the stuff they link to... Smile

Tech stuff can seem too abstract to me.  I am fine with the editing for environmental/ecology that i do, but not computerese.  Here is a problem i have on the logging wiki page

 

My file opens in an editor/just shows me text.

Download the file to your hard drive, then run
wscript C:\Path\To\EnableLogging.js

I do NOT know what to do here.  Download what file?  The one I am to click above?  How do I download it?  And what does "wscript" mean?  Do I do anything with that?  And "path to enablelogging.js, what the world does that mean?  Is there a specific one?  do I have to type .js  after what?  etc.

 

I do just show text when i click on the enable logging links.

I like Apples.  Especially Honeycrisp.

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Abraham M. Payton Jr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 7:45 AM

Thank you Rosie

Abraham

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 7:46 AM

Kevin here are a few that I frequently use.

Logos 4 Videos

Logos 4 Bugs

Library.Logos.com

Uploading Logs

Bug Report

Logos 4 Commands

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Check the Wiki

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 8:22 AM

Dan DeVilder:

Tech stuff can seem too abstract to me.  I am fine with the editing for environmental/ecology that i do, but not computerese.

I guess whoever wrote that page assumed that only advanced Windows users would need to be collecting log files to send to Logos, but it's turning out that more non-techie people are encountering bugs that need log files to debug. Sorry I missed the particular section you were having trouble with when I did my editing pass to make it a bit easier to understand for novices. I've gone back and made more changes. That's the beauty of wikis!Smile Thank you so much for telling me explicitly what parts were confusing to you, as it helped me know how basic to make my explanations.

Dan DeVilder:

Download the file to your hard drive, then run
wscript C:\Path\To\EnableLogging.js

I do NOT know what to do here.  Download what file?  The one I am to click above?  

Yes.

Dan DeVilder:

How do I download it?

Right-click on it, choose "Save Target As..." -- I've explained in more detail on the wiki.

Dan DeVilder:

And what does "wscript" mean?  Do I do anything with that?  

It is a Windows command that runs a script. You have to type wscript at a command prompt in order to run it (like old DOS commands; I don't know if you ever used DOS before Windows came along), followed by the name of script you are trying to run. I've explained in the wiki file how to open a Windows command prompt.

Dan DeVilder:

And "path to enablelogging.js, what the world does that mean?  Is there a specific one?  do I have to type .js  after what?  etc.

A "path" describes the location of where a file is found on your hard disk. Folders on your computer are hierarchical, so when you see a "full path" like "C:\Users\Dan DeVilder\My Documents\sermon.doc" it means: 1) the file is on your C drive; 2) the file is called sermon.doc; 3) the "path" to the file starts in the folder "Users" which is at the "root" (imagine it like a tree), inside of which there is another folder called "Dan DeVilder" inside of which there is another folder called "My Documents" and that's where the file is located. So the "path to EnableLogging.js" would depend on where you chose to save it. As you'll see in my explanation on the wiki, the shorter you can make that path, the less typing you'll have to do at the next step, so it is best to save it in the root (the full path of which is simply "C:\"). I explain how to do this in the wiki.

You have to type the full path to the Java script file (not just its filename) so that wscript can find it to run it. And yes, you have to include the .js as it is part of the filename.

Let me know if you can get it to work now after my explanation. It feels somewhat wordy and over-the-top to me in terms of explaining how to use Windows, but I don't want anyone to feel left out.

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 8:38 AM

if you copy the folowing lines into notepad (assuming vista)


Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Logos4\Logging]
"Enabled"=dword:00000001

save as "Enablelogging.reg"

Double click (accept the change) and logging will be enabled...

 

 

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 9:03 AM

DominicM:

if you copy the folowing lines into notepad (assuming vista)


Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Logos4\Logging]
"Enabled"=dword:00000001

save as "Enablelogging.reg"

Double click (accept the change) and logging will be enabled...

Dominic, thanks! That is much better than having people go hacking around in their registry without knowing what they're doing. I've added it to the wiki page.

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 9:23 AM

DominicM:

if you copy the folowing lines into notepad (assuming vista)


Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Logos4\Logging]
"Enabled"=dword:00000001

save as "Enablelogging.reg"

Double click (accept the change) and logging will be enabled...

 

and if you have Win 7, is there a difference?

I like Apples.  Especially Honeycrisp.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 9:29 AM

Dan DeVilder:
and if you have Win 7, is there a difference?
No, the information is stored in the same registry location across windows versions.

Truth Is Still Truth Even if You Don't Believe It

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 10:06 AM

Thanks Dominic, et al.  I have now enabled logging, should I ever need it.

 

Rosie, thank you for all your detail and help, too.  I do remember DOS.  I also, believe it or not, wrote a program for Basic, once.  In high school.  :)  Did all right, but my programming efforts stopped with that.

I understand basic path names and what that means, but the wscript thing was new, and not exactly knowing if I had to have a specific path, or how it would know what file to go to, whatever, that all was a bit confusing (not really "how would it know what file to go to----ahhh, nevermind the explanation.  Logging is on.  And all the men in the pacific northwest are happy.  "I am a lumberjack now . . . "

I like Apples.  Especially Honeycrisp.

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 10:19 AM

Very useful thread. Thanks to all of you. I copied already all the links to my OneNote.

Bohuslav

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 10:27 AM

Dan DeVilder:

I have now enabled logging, should I ever need it.

Yay!

Dan DeVilder:

I understand basic path names and what that means, but the wscript thing was new, and not exactly knowing if I had to have a specific path, or how it would know what file to go to, whatever, that all was a bit confusing

I'd never heard of wscript either, but it just looked like a command-line command to me from the context of how it was being described. I guess some of this sort of becomes intuitive after a while of being around computer lingo. Glad you're a happy lumberjack, and you're OK, and now you can work all day... ;-)

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 10:34 AM

I've updated and sorted, any additions, comments?

 

Installation

L4 Gold release
http://downloads.logos.com/LBS4/Installer/Logos4Setup.exe
http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4_Release_Notes
http://www.logos.com/support/techfaq#sysreqs (system requirements for L4)
http://wiki.logos.com/Quick_Installation_onto_multiple_computers
http://wiki.logos.com/Installation_and_Indexing_FAQ%27s

L4 Beta release
http://downloads.logos.com/LBS4/InstallerBeta/Logos4Setup.exe
http://community.logos.com/forums/t/8883.aspx (Beta info & warnings)
http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4_Beta_Release_Notes

L4 Default installation Path
C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Local\Logos4\Data\<random>\ResourceManager\Resources [Vista/Win7]
C:\Documents and Settings\<UserName>\Local Settings\Application Data\Logos4\Data\<random>\ResourceManager\Resources [XP]


Troubleshooting
http://wiki.logos.com/Diagnostic_Logging
http://wiki.logos.com/Uploading_Logs
http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4_Bugs
http://wiki.logos.com/Bug_Report
http://community.logos.com/forums/t/7879.aspx (Mark Barnes' "How to Ask for Help")

L4 Use
http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4_Video_Tutorials
http://www.logos.com/videos [Official Videos]
http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4_Commands
http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4_Keyboard_Shortcuts_For_Windows
http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_Visual_Glossary

Product Information
http://www.logos.com/4/missingfeatures
http://logos.com/comparison (the base packages comparison chart)
http://www.logos.com/products/info/guides (Product Guides - guides to various product cateogories)

Misc
http://community.logos.com/forums/p/341/3265.aspx#3265 (Bob Pritchett's post on the license agreement)
http://wiki.logos.com/Metadata_correction_proposals

Libronix help
http://blog.logos.com/archives/2009/12/using_your_new_logos_4_resources_in_logos_3_or_logos_for_mac_1.html
http://www.logos.com/support/downloads/ldls
C:\Program Files (x86)\Libronix DLS\Resources

Contact Logos
http://www.logos.com/about/contact (Logos contact info)
http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_Email_Addresses (More Logos contact info)

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 10:44 AM

Kevin Becker:
I've updated and sorted, any additions, comments?

 

Good deal Kevin               Thanks to everybody.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 10:53 AM

Kevin Becker:

I've updated and sorted, any additions, comments?

This is great, Kevin. Thank you for doing it!

Here are a few more I thought of:

Under L4 Gold Release:

http://www.logos.com/4/newfeatures (Top 100 new features in Logos 4.0)
http://www.logos.com/L4/support/whatsnew40a (What's new in Logos 4.0a)

Under Troubleshooting:

http://www.logos.com/L4/training/ReportTypo (how to report a typo)

Under L4 Use:

http://wiki.logos.com/FAQ (maybe this should go under Troubleshooting?)
http://wiki.logos.com/Search_HELP
http://wiki.logos.com/Search_Fields_List

Under Product Information:

http://www.logos.com/prepub
http://www.logos.com/communitypricing

Perhaps a Mac section ?

http://wiki.logos.com/Mac_Alpha_Release_Notes_and_History

I'm not a Mac user so I don't know what else would be important to include there.

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 4 2010 11:51 AM

Rosie Perera:
Here are a few more I thought of:

I've added these. I put the wiki FAQ on the Troubleshooting section because it deals almost exclusively with problems.

I also added a few Mac links

It just struck me, a page on the wiki needs to be added to answer "I've just installed L4 can I delete L3?" I've lost track how many people's first post was to ask that question Smile. If I have time to create it later I will, however, if someone beats me to it I won't complain...

EDIT: I'll hold off posting the new list just yet to see if any other links get mentioned. Would it be helpful if I upload my .txt file or should I just copy and paste later?

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