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Dominick Sela | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Feb 6 2010 4:06 PM

What is the Literary Typing section used for? I really don't get it or see the value of it.  I just looked at Mark 7:1-13, the pericope statement is "Traditions and Commandments.  The Literary typing seciton looks like this:

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 6 2010 4:11 PM

Dominick Sela:
What is the Literary Typing section used for? I really don't get it or see the value of it.  I just looked at Mark 7:1-13, the pericope statement is "Traditions and Commandments.  The Literary typing seciton looks like this:

I gotta admit that I've never seen this section tell me anything more than the obvious.

I don't get it either.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 6 2010 5:11 PM

I have asked for definitions or references to figure this one out but haven't gotten an answer. I expected more detail than this section provides - it's a section I expected to be very useful, and may be when I get the necessary background. But at the moment ...

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Damian McGrath | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 6 2010 6:10 PM

Dominick,

There is the briefest explanation on this page: http://www.logos.com/logos3/new/genrecoding

As I'm not terribly interested in Form Criticism, I have not found these helpful.

Moreover, I don't know how well these are done. For example, I just looked up Matthew's Beatitudes and they are described as "Sermon: Discourse, Apocalyptic Saying." Why not "Macarism"? The list of qualifications for elders in Titus 1:5-9 is marked as "Personal Instruction, Leadership Qualifications" but in Form Criticism, this would be a virtue/vice list.....

Finally, they ought link to resources. I would find these valuable if they agreed with me Smile and included links to the appropriate articles in the various Bible Dictionaries....

 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 6 2010 7:22 PM

I like form criticism as a way to encourage a close reading. And I have tried to determine the criteria and granularity of the type. But I'm not sure I've even correctly identified Tooman. His categories, however, are:

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Damian McGrath | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 6 2010 7:30 PM

MJ. Smith:
I'm not sure I've even correctly identified Tooman. His categories, however, are:

 

Where did you get that from Martha?

 

Is a similar one available for Mackie?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 6 2010 7:44 PM

Damian McGrath:
Where did you get that from Martha?

I made it as part of my own documentation of Logos - Mackie is only done through the Gospels but I'll likely work on it this evening if I don't get sidetracked on lectionaries or the Kephalaia.

Note: I removed the proper names in front of the sagas to make a single literary type

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 7 2010 1:11 AM

For the New Testament:

 

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 7 2010 1:49 AM

MJ. Smith:

Damian McGrath:
Where did you get that from Martha?

I made it as part of my own documentation of Logos

That's awesome, Martha! Would you mind sharing it as a text file (zipped and uploaded as an attachment here)? So I don't have to type it all in again myself?

Also what other nifty things do you have in your own documentation of Logos?Smile

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 7 2010 3:08 AM

That only leaves me with one question....

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 7 2010 3:59 PM

The genre coding lists are attached. I'm using the new edition of Inspiration to create my own documentation - very little is in finished form but I'll share what I have when it's in reasonable shape8306.zip genre coding.zip.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 7 2010 4:00 PM

Robert Pavich:
"...Martha, when do you find time to sleep?" Wink

I try hard to be up by noon.Big Smile (most days that is)

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Damian McGrath | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 7 2010 4:10 PM

Martha,

 

Thanks for these...

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 8 2010 12:31 AM

MJ. Smith:

The genre coding lists are attached. I'm using the new edition of Inspiration to create my own documentation - very little is in finished form but I'll share what I have when it's in reasonable shape.

Thanks!

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Frank Fenby | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 4 2010 7:12 PM

About a decade ago I gleaned the following from some of the volumes of the Forms of the Old Testament Literature. I also added material from other sources. This does not at all match the new literary typing, but may give you some clues. 3644.Literary Def Formulas Etc.pdf Hope this helps.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 4 2010 7:14 PM

Thank you - this  is helpful.

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 4 2010 7:21 PM

I recently finished reading a great book that deals with the issue of Genre as it relates to interpretation of the bible called "How to Read the Bible for All It's Worth." I bought the paperback edition from Amazon and then ordered the Logos version on pre-pub. It is scheduled to be released by logos sometime this week. It's a great book and will serve as a very helpful addition to my reference collection.

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