TIP of the day: Connecting a study Bible to the version to which it belongs

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Jul 17 2015 2:43 PM

With thanks to Eli for reminding me how to handle the difficult cases: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/106749/749861.aspx#749861

1, The Faithlife Study Bible is unusual in that it adjusts its text to correspond any of several popular translations available in the drop-down menu. The default is the Lexham English Bible.

Notice how the quoted text changes in the FSB:

2.  Other study Bibles are linked to a single translation. As I have tagged my books with the translation used, I can show a representative sample:

For these one can have a disconnect. Here the highest priority Bible is the NIV but the study Bible is the KJV/AV:

3. To solve this problem one can used advanced prioritization.

a) open the Library

b) In the library panel open the prioritization sidebar:

c) To prioritize the ESV Bible to be used for the ESV Study Bible, drag the ESV Bible to the prioritization sidebar.

d). in the prioritization sidebar, right-click on the ESV Bible entry and select "set prioritization limits"

e) set "of this type" to the ESV from the dropdown menu.

f) In this range may be left blank; use the drop down menu and find box to set "from this resource" to The ESV Study Bible.

g) Drag and drop the entry above all Bible entries without prioritization limits so that it will work correctly. Now a hover over a reference in the ESV Study Bible will display the ESV translation while other resources continue to use your preferred Bible.

4. Trying to do the same for the apocrypha supplement to the study bible creates problems that Eii explains ... and shows how to solve.

Eli Evans:

If I understand, you want Bible reference hyperlinks to the apocrypha originating in the Engelbrecht Notes resource to land in the Engelbrecht Text resource, without disturbing priority behavior of hyperlinks outside of that range or resource.

Turns out that the (Logos-created Wilted Flower) series is what is gumming up the works.

Explanation: If you simply drag either of the volumes over, then you'll be making a rule for the whole series. When you do that, the keylink handler checks all of the volumes in the series alphabetically by sort title. This works fine for commentary series, which are truly serial, that is where there isn't much overlap in milestone references. These two resources, though, are only a "series" because we split up the print book. Their references overlap entirely, which means they are competing against one another for each hyperlink. When prioritized as a series, the notes resource always wins out because "N" < "T" alphabetically.

There are two ways around this: 1) Prioritize just the volume you want and not the series, or 2) break up the series.

Solution 1: Ctrl-drag the “Text” (preferred)

The only rule you need is one for the volume that you want to receive the hyperlinks, that is, the Engelbrecht Text resource. This is the preferred method.

(1) Hold down the CTRL key and drag "The Apocrypha: Lutheran Edition: Text" to the top of your priority list.

(2) Right-click on it and "Set prioritization limits (advanced)" to:

- of this type: Bible - in this range: Tobit-4 Maccabees - from this resource: The Apocrypha: Lutheran Edition: Notes

Your priority should end up looking like this (with NRSV for you where I have ESV):

Solution 2: Break up the series

This method works by breaking up the series by renaming the series in one or both resources. You still only need to add one prioritization rule. (I'm including this method for completeness. The previous method is the preferred way of dealing with this.)

(1) Select the Notes resource and set a user series that is unique in your library. I used "Engelbrecht Notes" on the Notes resource and (just for good measure; not required) "Engelbrecht Text" on the text resource.

(2) Drag the Engelbrecht Text resource over into resource priority and put it at the top. Note that it's still a series, but it only has 1 volume.

(3) Right-click on it and "Set prioritization limits (advanced)" as described in Solution 1, Step 2 above.

That should end up looking something like this:

(Save this post for linking to later, since I'm sure that others have and will have this problem.)

Eli Evans:

This situation arises because we've used "series" for multiple purposes: to define serial relationships between resources such as commentary sets, and to associated books that are associated in print -- especially if they were one book in print that we split into two resources in Logos.

This works pretty well in every situation except for "series" that have overlapping references, like this one. This is in the gray zone of things that should probably be fixed, but probably won't be unless/until we revamp resource priority pretty significantly.

In the meantime, the methods described above can be used for any similar scenario involving multiple overlapping versions (or Text+Notes, as this one) within a series.

Rules of thumb:

  • When you only want to prioritize one book in a series, hold down CTRL when you drag.
  • You only need to make priority rules for the hyperlink target resource, and never for the hyperlink source.

Hope that helps.

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GaoLu | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 17 2015 8:01 PM

A lot of really good stuff here.  Thanks.  

How did you go about tagging books by translation used? 

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