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Mark Johnson | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Aug 26 2015 6:43 PM

Is there a way to copy tables from the various resources to a Word document in a way which preserves the look of the table?

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 26 2015 7:38 PM

Mark Johnson:

Is there a way to copy tables from the various resources to a Word document in a way which preserves the look of the table?

A screen capture tool like Jing will work, but you lose the ability to edit. If you don't care about editing, then that would be the tool I'd suggest, as it is free.

I agree that the inability to preserve table structure with borders is less than convenient.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 27 2015 4:43 AM

Another option is to use the Print/Export option and make it into a XPS file. This will retain the table and text.

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 27 2015 5:37 AM

Windows has a native snipping tool that works as well

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Mark Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 27 2015 8:21 AM

Let me clarify, does the Logos software have this ability? I am aware of tools like OneNote, etc. If this ability is not in Logos, it needs to be a feature that is added.

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 27 2015 9:50 AM

Hm, I just tried simple "copy & paste" with a table from the gunpowder trason book that was free a couple of months ago. Looks all right to me. What's the problem...?

Original:

Copy:

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 27 2015 10:42 AM

Mark Johnson:

Let me clarify, does the Logos software have this ability? I am aware of tools like OneNote, etc. If this ability is not in Logos, it needs to be a feature that is added.

How I answered above using XPS is within Logos software.

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Mark Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 27 2015 11:57 AM

Table 4.1. Pauline Virtues and Vices

  Rom.     1 Cor.     2 Cor.     Gal.     Eph.     Phil.     Col.     1 Thess.     Past. Ep.   Sexual Sins   sexual immorality, fornication porneia   6:9   12:21   5:19   5:3, 5   3:5   licentiousness aselgeia   13:13   12:21   5:19   4:19   uncleanness akatharsia   1:24   12:21   5:19   5:3, 5   3:5   4:3, 8   sexual excess koitē   13:13   effeminate malakos   6:9   one who has sexual intercourse with someone of one’s own sex arsenokoitēs   1:27   6:9   Antisocial Offenses/Offenders   strife, discord, contention eris   1:29; 13:13   1:11; 3:3   12:20   5:20   1:15   jealousy, envy zēlos   13:13   3:3   12:20   5:20   thief, to steal kleptēs, kleptein   2:21; 13:9   6:10   4:28   a greedy person, greed pleonektēs   1:29   5:10; 6:10   9:5   4:19; 5:3, 5   greediness, insatiableness, avarice, covetousness pleonexia   5:10; 6:10   3:5   2:5   be drunk; drunkard; drunkenness methyein, methysos, methē   13:13   5:11; 6:10; 11:21   5:21   5:18   5:7   reviler, abusive person loidoros   5:11; 6:10   anger, wrath, rage, indignation thymos   12:20   5:20   4:31   3:8   strife, contentiousness; selfishness, selfish ambition eritheia   2:8   12:20   5:20   1:17; 2:3   evil speech, slander, defamation, detraction; slanderous katalalia, katalalos   1:30   12:20   (secret) gossip, talebearing; rumormonger, tale-bearer psithyrismos, psithyristēs   1:29   12:20   swelled-headedness, pride, conceit physiōsis   12:20   disorder, unruliness akatastasia   14:33   12:20   enmity echthra   5:20   sorcery, magic pharmakeia   5:20   dissension dichostasia   16:17   3:3   5:20   faction hairesis   11:19   5:20   injustice adikia   1:18, 29; 6:13   evil ponēria   1:29   5:8   wickedness kakia   1:29   5:8   4:31   3:8   Titus 3:3   envy phthonos, phthoneō   1:29   5:21, 26   murder phonos   1:29   deceit dolos   1:29   meanness kakoētheia   1:29   God-haters theostygēs   1:30   insolent hybristēs   1:30   arrogant hyperēphanoi   1:30   2 Tim. 3:2   boastful alazones   1:30   inventors of evil epheuretai kakōn   1:30   disobedient to parents goneusin apeitheis   1:30   2 Tim. 3:2   foolish asynetoi   1:31   faithless asynthetoi   1:31   heartless astorgoi   1:31   2 Tim. 3:3   merciless aneleēmones   1:31

James W. Thompson, Moral Formation according to Paul: The Context and Coherence of Pauline Ethics (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Academic, 2011), 91–93.

This is the problem. Copying does not retain the table format

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Mark Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 27 2015 11:59 AM

I do not know how to access that. It is not option that I see when I right click a table or highlight a table and right click it. 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 27 2015 1:55 PM

Mark Johnson:

I do not know how to access that. It is not option that I see when I right click a table or highlight a table and right click it. 

Bruce's suggestion of producing an XPS file is available from the Print / Export menu found by clicking on the panel icon at the top left of the panel.

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 27 2015 6:48 PM

Mark Johnson:

This is the problem. Copying does not retain the table format

I'm sure it does! However, if you paste it here into the forums, the table display gets lost. You need to paste it into an application that can actually display tables, such as Microsoft Word.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 27 2015 6:52 PM

Jan Krohn:

Mark Johnson:

This is the problem. Copying does not retain the table format

I'm sure it does! However, if you paste it here into the forums, the table display gets lost. You need to paste it into an application that can actually display tables, such as Microsoft Word.

I think Mark is right. If you simply copy Logos text and then paste it into a Word document you lose the table format. This has been my experience too.

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 27 2015 6:58 PM

Bruce Dunning:

I think Mark is right. If you simply copy Logos text and then paste it into a Word document you lose the table format. This has been my experience too.

My above screenshots came into place by simple copy & paste. So I'm convinced it does work.

Are you sure you paste into Microsoft Word, and not into WordPad, NotePad or any similar application that can't display tables properly?

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 27 2015 7:13 PM

Jan Krohn:

Bruce Dunning:

I think Mark is right. If you simply copy Logos text and then paste it into a Word document you lose the table format. This has been my experience too.

My above screenshots came into place by simple copy & paste. So I'm convinced it does work.

Are you sure you paste into Microsoft Word, and not into WordPad, NotePad or any similar application that can't display tables properly?

Okay, I just tired it again in Word and the table format is not coming through. Just to clarify, I'm using Word 2010. I'm not sure what to say. Perhaps the version of Word makes a difference. Edit: I even tried right clicking and using the various paste options.

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 27 2015 7:22 PM

Possibly. I have Word 2013. Does Word 2010 have "Paste Special"? Maybe that'd be an option:

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Paste-Special-e03db6c7-8295-4529-957d-16ac8a778719

Copying from Biblia instead of Logos could also improve the result.

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Mark Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 27 2015 8:16 PM

Thank you Bruce and Graham. I have it now. It is still not very functional, but at least it works.

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Mark Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 27 2015 8:21 PM

Jan - I am sorry, but your comments border on offensive to me. I use Mircrosoft Word and have attempted to get numerous tables from Logos books copied into it.

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 27 2015 8:28 PM

I don't want to offend, but the above screenshot is a fact, and therefore hard proof that copy & paste can work. I've also suggested some options (paste special, copy from biblia), which I'm not sure you even tried. I'm truly sorry that I've offended you, but I'm also confused about why...

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 27 2015 9:17 PM

Jan, you are copying images, not tables.

Copy/paste does NOT work with tables. And I'm using Word 2013.

I've tried multiple examples, and the only thing that comes over whole is tables that are in the original resource as an image.

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Doc B:
Jan, you are copying images, not tables.

He's pasting images to the forum because the forum doesn't support tables.

Doc B:
Copy/paste does NOT work with tables. And I'm using Word 2013.

Copy/paste does work with tables. I just copied the "Table 4.1" that Mark Johnson used above. I highlighted some of the text in Word yellow to prove it's text, not an image.

Obviously not all the styles (e.g., row background) came across 100% but that can be fixed in Word.

Doc B:
I've tried multiple examples, and the only thing that comes over whole is tables that are in the original resource as an image.

I'm not sure why it's not working for you, sorry. Are you selecting the entire table in Logos, then pressing Ctrl+C or using "Copy" on the context menu?

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