New Jerome Biblical Commentary/New Jerome Bible Handbook

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Chris K | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Oct 6 2015 11:07 PM

Two great resources that I used with my students when I had them do Exegesis Papers were:

New Jerome Biblical Commentary (a classic)

http://www.amazon.com/New-Jerome-Biblical-Commentary/dp/0136149340/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444197951&sr=8-1&keywords=new+jerome 

and 

The New Jerome Bible Handbook (based on the Commentary, but valuable in itself)

http://www.amazon.com/Jerome-Bible-Handbook-Biblical-Commentary/dp/0814622046/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1444197951&sr=8-2&keywords=new+jerome 

While Verbum has an incredible amount of commentaries, I would love to see these added!

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 7 2015 3:58 AM

Agreed! They have been asked for many times sadly.

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 7 2015 6:40 AM

The Jerome Biblical Commentary was available in the L2 days, which is how I got it (I found an old L2 library about 2 years ago on ebay).  I don't think it was ever available in L3 or later releases.  It must be a licensing issue.

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 7 2015 7:55 AM

I have the Jerome Biblical Commentary too from the old days, but this is different - The New Jerome Biblical Commentary is a very substantial rewrite and I am pretty sure without looking that it's a new editorial team.I have it in hard copy and it's much different.

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Chris K | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 7 2015 8:34 AM

Thanks for all the feedback - hopefully if it is a rights issue that can be something overcome.  I am glad others are interested in this as well!

The Handbook I have found as a great  to use as a nice overview of the "literal sense" of the book, as well as a nice outline of the book.  Hopefully both might be added soon!

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Average Joe | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 7 2015 8:49 AM

Joseph Turner:

The Jerome Biblical Commentary was available in the L2 days, which is how I got it (I found an old L2 library about 2 years ago on ebay).  I don't think it was ever available in L3 or later releases.  It must be a licensing issue.

This may be off-topic, but how does that work buying a used version of a previous iteration of Logos? There are some titles like the Jerome Biblical Commentary that I'd like to have and am wondering if that would be a good way to obtain it.

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 7 2015 8:51 AM

Chris K:
Hopefully both might be added soon!

I knew I had asked about this - Louis St. Hilaire, who is still around, sent me this in 2011, so it does sound like rights issues. But maybe the publisher is more savvy about the benefit of the digital world now almost 5 years later! 

Louis St. Hilaire sent you the following message:

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Subject:RE: New Jerome Biblical Commentary

Hi Don,

The New Jerome Biblical Commentary is high on our list of Catholic resources we would like to have, but we haven't been able to secure rights from the publisher.

I hope that changes (hey, we finally got the Vatican II documents!), but I can't make any promises.

-Lou

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 7 2015 9:44 AM

This thread explains my situation:

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/85762/605740.aspx#605740

I don't think that it is possible to sync from L3 any longer, so you would need to send the license file to Logos to unlock the books for you.  As far as getting an old version, you just have to keep an eye out on ebay or the like.

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Rayner | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 15 2016 6:03 AM

I'd just like to keep this thread bumped up a bit.  Wondering whether it would help for it to go to Suggestions?  I am particularly interested in the New Jerome Biblical Commentary.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 16 2016 7:31 PM

The NJBC is on the Book Suggestions UserVoice.

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Chris K | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 18 2016 9:56 AM

If you can find a new (sealed) of an older version that has the license code in it, they will unlock the books for you.  I just found the Logos 2 Catholic on EBay that had the Jerome Biblical Commentary (old version).  It is new/sealed. 

If it is not new, then they have to do a license transfer, so they need permission of the old license holder to transfer it to your account.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 18 2016 11:20 AM

SineNomine:

The NJBC is on the Book Suggestions UserVoice.

I realize the Prentice Hall in the past has been objectionable to having their book in Logos format but I have to believe saner heads are there now (when I say that I mean that Digital copies are just as important if not more so than paper copies in 2016, indeed I have 2nd edition but will not even think of getting the 3rd edition till it can be purchased in an electronic format).

-Dan

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Don Awalt | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 18 2016 1:15 PM

Chris K:

If you can find a new (sealed) of an older version that has the license code in it, they will unlock the books for you.  I just found the Logos 2 Catholic on EBay that had the Jerome Biblical Commentary (old version).  It is new/sealed. 

If it is not new, then they have to do a license transfer, so they need permission of the old license holder to transfer it to your account.

I have this version it was dramatically written under Raymond Brown's editor leadership, like about 80% rewritten. The two versions look nothing alike.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 18 2016 1:33 PM

Don Awalt:
I have this version it was dramatically written under Raymond Brown's editor leadership, like about 80% rewritten. The two versions look nothing alike.

I would agree but still find the 1968 Jerome Biblical Commentary valuable.

-Dan

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Chris K | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 18 2016 2:23 PM

Yep, I knew it was the older version - I still see it as a valuable resource to have (I have the hardcover version of the New Jerome Biblical Commentary).


Just a bit of an update, for those who think they might want the old version and looking to get it on eBay, there are a few more steps involved in getting it "unlocked" on the newer versions of Logos/Verbum.

1) The Serial Number/Registration code is not in the actual box - you have to install the software first.  Which means you need to have, or have access to, a machine running windows 95 or XP - fortunately, our school had a laptop that we could run in XP mode on and it worked.

2) Once installed, you then need to follow these steps to extract the LSB File: https://www.logos.com/about-lls  and send that into Logos Customer Care.  They will use that to then unlock the books in that edition.

I just wanted to make sure people were aware of this as I had assumed that the code would be in the box with the discs - I wasn't anticipating needing to install it, and was fortunate (after panicking that I wasted a bunch of $$) that I could find a machine to have it installed on.

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Average Joe | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 19 2016 8:04 AM

Chris K:

Yep, I knew it was the older version - I still see it as a valuable resource to have (I have the hardcover version of the New Jerome Biblical Commentary).


Just a bit of an update, for those who think they might want the old version and looking to get it on eBay, there are a few more steps involved in getting it "unlocked" on the newer versions of Logos/Verbum.

1) The Serial Number/Registration code is not in the actual box - you have to install the software first.  Which means you need to have, or have access to, a machine running windows 95 or XP - fortunately, our school had a laptop that we could run in XP mode on and it worked.

2) Once installed, you then need to follow these steps to extract the LSB File: https://www.logos.com/about-lls  and send that into Logos Customer Care.  They will use that to then unlock the books in that edition.

I just wanted to make sure people were aware of this as I had assumed that the code would be in the box with the discs - I wasn't anticipating needing to install it, and was fortunate (after panicking that I wasted a bunch of $$) that I could find a machine to have it installed on.

Thanks for sharing. I've never been able to find it on eBay when I've looked. It would be nice to get the old Jerome.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 19 2016 10:09 AM

It took me many years scouring the net to locate my copy. Eventually I found an unopened copy for sale from a small catholic book store in the midwest... I am not sure if they had just recently gone online or what but I was very happy after i think a near 5 year search for it.

-Dan

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Chris K | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 19 2016 10:18 AM

I must have just gotten lucky - there was one on eBay for $29 last week.  Shipping was $7.95.  It arrived yesterday and now have it installed.

I actually was able to get 3 new (to me) resources out of it:

  • Jerome Biblical Commentary (Old Edition)
  • New Jerusalem Bible Reader's Edition (I have the one with notes on prepub)
  • NAB (old edition)

While they are all older editions/resources, I still think they are valuable to have as I do like to compare what the "revised" and updated ones change.  It is also valuable since you can't get the older resources on Verbum/Logos any more.

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Chris K | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 19 2016 10:20 AM

You might want to add it as a watchlist on eBay so you get notified when one gets listed :)

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 19 2016 12:18 PM

Same thing here at amazon- Catholic Scholar's Pack since you never know when one might pop up.

-Dan

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