Exegetical (Guide?) Database update

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Ron Corbett | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Nov 30 2015 4:34 PM

I would like to suggest integrating Wallace's monumental work into the Logos Databases. Preferably amplified by the Logos tagging, milestones, etc. What an AMAZING step for exegetes, professors and students.

Maybe as part of the Exegetical Guide or maybe as a separate searchable database. 

It would be great if Logos was more closely tuned to the Seminaries language programs - in that at each level, the texts might (in time) be merely an introduction to the further wealth of riches in Logos software. If the material covered in the texts could be fully accessible in the database or Guides it would be a huge blessing.

[Sorry if I already posted something like this. I am just trying to flesh out the idea.]

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Matthew | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 30 2015 5:51 PM

Wallace should already show up in the Exegetical Guide in the grammars section. Was there something in addition to this that you had in mind?

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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 30 2015 5:55 PM

Hi Ron.

Someone already responded about the "Grammars" section. I'll also mention the "Grammatical Constructions" section (both in Logos Now).

Also, the "Word by Word" section of exegetical guide has Wallace-like categories for just about everything that isn't a finite verb.

Is that the sort of thing you're looking for?

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Ron Corbett | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 1 2015 1:13 PM

Thanks for the responses.

Yes, This is exactly what I had in mind.

Also, in all the Exegetical - type Commentaries, there may be Wallace-like info. Could this also be tagged and searched ? Is it already labelled with tags or milestones [Forgive my ignorance if I am not understanding milestones]?

Not all the data is written in concrete, there are choices to be made. Having ready access to these possibilities - as each scholarly commentator might see it - would be a huge time saver for those who may be interested.

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Matthew | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 1 2015 1:37 PM

Ron,

If I understand you correctly, you are asking if Faithlife will go through technical commentaries, look for where authors specify syntactical functions/categories of Greek words, and then present that information in the Exegetical Guide. Someone from Faithlife could answer that question better than I could, but I would imagine there would be several significant challenges to implementing that. Grammars do not agree on what the best labels even are for various categories/usages, so one of the immediate questions would be whose labels would be used? If you choose a recent grammar, such as that of Wallace, you will exclude every commentary written prior to it. If you choose an older grammar, you will exclude every modern technical commentary. Besides that, very few commentaries consistently provide grammatical tags. Even if Faithlife did expend the effort (money) to try doing this, I don't know how beneficial it would actually be. A better solution might be to just use resources that already exist for similar purposes. You might be interested in taking a look at this, for example:

https://www.logos.com/product/4229/a-grammatical-analysis-of-the-greek-new-testament

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Ron Corbett | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 2 2015 3:46 AM

Matthew,

Agreed, this is a huge job if there is no computer code to find them all. [And I know the code has to be written.] I am thinking more along the lines of a survey rather than Logos necessarily deciding [in every case] which are the best labels. To me, the more modern Grammars are probably better, but there may be other insightful opinions reflected in earlier works.

You may be right that the time/ money put into this may not have the payoff; don't know. As I use Logos I always try to think of ways the program might be made better. The Exegetical Tools are already amazing. I do think it can be made to track a little closer with the the seminary curriculums / and with the ongoing needs of those who finish their Biblical Language studies so they can continue to use the tools once they leave Seminary. [ie- INFORMATION window: Perhaps a Conjugation section that shows a complete conjugating of the verb (in THAT tense/mood) as you hoover the mouse over it.] Study and reviewat the same time.

Zerwick is helpful. Exegetical Summaries (though not complete) are also very helpful. 

Thanks.

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