Linux version of Logos Bible Software

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Steven Cuffle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 29 2009 9:21 PM

I guess this thread is a little too serious for me, so here's my second attempt at humor...

All future Bible scholars (pronounced "me") are using Ubuntu.

Ah, I kill me.

I've recently started using Ubuntu, but I don't see MS or Mac in danger of losing out to any distro any time soon.  So, I'll just keep doing what I've always done, use MS where I must and then use whatever I like for anything else.

Has anyone had any success getting version 4 to work in a linux distro yet?  If so, which one and how?

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Alan Gerling | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 1 2009 9:02 PM

I must admit, Logos 4 was a Linux killer for me.  As much as I loved Ubuntu dearly, my computer just didn't like running Logos 4 in a virtual box, and I refuse to dual boot.  On the upside however, I will say that I was pleasantly surprised by Windows 7.  Unless Linux can get some killer apps, it's just not going to be a feasible operating system outside of geek world.  By the way, in case you're wondering, I would consider Logos on Linux to be a killer app, and I think there would be a groundswell of people (pastors, students with no money to spend on expensive operating systems) that would move to Linux if Logos ran natively on it.  The stats don't show Linux users, but I think what the Logos team doesn't understand is that by making Logos for Linux, they would be creating Linux users!

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Brian Whalen | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 1 2009 10:58 PM

Logos costs so much, I assume they count on churches budgeting money for the training classes and 4 digit price tag collections in order to sell their product.

Brian Whalen

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 2 2009 8:06 AM

BrianWhalen:
Logos costs so much
Logos Provides so much.  While I won't debate the fact that plopping down several $100 bills is a painful process - try to remember what you get in exchange for that money.  No, not the engine, that's "Free" (Paid for by the book sales).

You get hundreds of fully tagged, fully searchable books. 

I have over a hundred linear feet of bookshelf space in my office and many dozens of books awaiting a shelf laying on the floor (sob).  I also have a 3 1/2" hard drive with some 20 GB of books on it.  If I totaled  up the cost of my print and digital library my wife would have a heart attack.  My wife won't even let me see the CBD catalogs when they arrive any more.

I know what it takes for me to search through all of these dead-tree version books.  I also know full well what it takes for me to search through some 3000 volumes on my computer.

Yes Logos is expensive - that's a true statement.  But IMHO I got what I paid for plus a quite a bit more.

BrianWhalen:
I assume they count on churches budgeting money for the training classes and 4 digit price tag collections in order to sell their product.
I wouldn't begin to assume what they count on.  Let me be patently blunt.  I'm fully qualified to be listed as poor as an American, but compared to a massive percentage (75%?) of the world I'm stupendously wealthy.  I will answer for what I've done with that wealth, as well as with the wealth of resources I have. 

I trust that I am investing in all things well.  I opted to skip out on the new car and the big screen TV that everyone I know has.  I have software with books.  They have a 42" plasma with surround sound.  Big Whoop for them, I'm pursuing truth - which one shall endure for eternity?

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Andrew | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 3 2009 6:50 PM

Libronix version 3 is a free download without books. Is the same true of Logos 4? I can't find a link. I desire to perform some testing under Linux...

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Michael Kares | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 3 2009 8:48 PM

[View:http://community.logos.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/28/5545.Logos4Setup.exe.zip

 

]I couldn't find a link on the web site to the file, so I downloaded it and compressed it.  Happy Testing!

 

 

Blessings,

Michael Kares

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 3 2009 9:16 PM

MichaelKares:

[View:http://community.logos.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/28/5545.Logos4Setup.exe.zip 

]I couldn't find a link on the web site to the file, so I downloaded it and compressed it.  Happy Testing! 

Blessings,

Michael Kares

Try this

http://downloads.logos.com/LBS4/LDLS4Installer/Logos4Setup.exe

george
gfsomsel

יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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Neil Short | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 8:28 AM

I'm there.

But I'm in the camp that I prefer to use inferior products that I can use on my operating system of choice (FreeBSD). I won't move to windows just for one software.

I wish some quality software were available for purchase and use on unix systems. I think there would be demonstrable profit; and minimal risk to the vendors. Generally some base system could be open sourced and the rest would happen almost by itself.

seems that way to me, anyway.

The commercial software available unix are huge enterprise systems. That's not a very good test. How about some test personal productivity software?

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Neil Short | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 8:43 AM

Those market shares are OS purchases. It's not much of a reflection of users willing to pay for software. There are more Linux installations than the pie graph suggests.

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Neil Short | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 8:50 AM

If somebody would put up a test software for sale that runs WELL on Linux (/BSD) we could see just how well the market will respond.

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Neil Short | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 8:52 AM

plus, you can let the hackers see the Libronix code. That takes the development monkey off your back.

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Neil Short | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 8:56 AM

Web apps are a dime a dozen these days. I'm interested in a self-contained version. Logos is the best; however.......

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 8:59 AM

Neil Short:

If somebody would put up a test software for sale that runs WELL on Linux (/BSD) we could see just how well the market will respond.

I hope you don't mind if a non-Linux user horns in here to ask a question.  You speak of test software that runs well; would this not mean that a nearly finished version of Logos 4 would be necessary rather than some "quick and dirty" assemblage?  If they are going to go to that length, "in for a penny, in for a pound."  I just don't see it.

george
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יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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Alan Gerling | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 9:11 AM

I really think you guys are missing the point.  We can press for a Linux version till we're blue in the face, but it's not going to happen.  The market analysis just doesn't support it.  Beyond that, I really think your OS is not going to matter within the decade.  I think the future of computing software is in fully featured web apps (i.e. Google Docs, Office Live, etc).  As unwilling as Logos seems to be on working on a Linux port of their software, they do seem to be highly interested in a web app!  I think the Linux Logos users of the world could better direct their energies toward encouraging that kind of application for Logos 5.  Until then, dual boot or VM a Windows Box, and when you don't feel like restarting your computer to just look something up, use library.logos.com! (make sure you make the window really narrow, after all, it is designed for a phone, not a computer!  

There, sermon finished!!!

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Michael Kares | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 9:59 AM

I hope Logos doesn't move completely to cloud computing.  I'd hate to need to possess an internet connection to access my resources.

 

Also, I y'all want quality Unix Software you can always purchase a Mac.  Cool

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 15 2009 10:47 AM

MichaelKares:

I hope Logos doesn't move completely to cloud computing.  I'd hate to need to possess an internet connection to access my resources.

Let's not drag that up again.  It's not happening in the foreseeable future, at least a cloud only model isn't happening.  That's already been discussed ad nauseum.

 

Truth Is Still Truth Even if You Don't Believe It

Check the Wiki

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Andrew | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 17 2009 6:17 PM

Tried to install Logos 4 under the latest crossover office, but, logos 4 stops and complains that I am not using XP with service pack 3.... Would be nice if you could over-ride that.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 17 2009 7:31 PM

Andrew, I couldn't get that far before.  Did you have to install .net separately or how did you start the install.  Every time I tried under Linux it failed right away.

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Andrew | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 17 2009 10:07 PM

For my first attempt, I tried a windows 98 bottle with dcom98 and IE6. I then installed unsupported software and selected Logos4Setup.exe. I had to check the unsupported install log file to see that anything happened.

Next, I created an XP bottle, and I installed IE7. I was prepared to perform jump through a bunch of hoops, but it displayed a dialog that stated that I needed to have XP service pack 3.

I may probe crossover support to see if I can fool the EXE into thinking that I am using service pack 3, but without the other items (such as .NET), it will likely not function without a full VM.

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jcc | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 17 2009 10:19 PM

Since somebody dragged this up, I used to want to support a linux version also, but after seeing how the mac fokes are doing, no thanks.  :)

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