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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Jan 2 2016 5:46 PM

Well, I finally got my Verbum Christmas gift - but I got it on January 2 and it expired on December 30.  I expect a call to FL will be made on Monday.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 2 2016 8:24 PM

I guess the mail was a bit slow over the Christmas season. Tongue Tied You will not have any troubles getting it sorted out if you call.

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 3 2016 2:00 AM

Bruce Dunning:
I guess the mail was a bit slow over the Christmas season. Tongue Tied You will not have any troubles getting it sorted out if you call.

I don't expect there to be any - but it might alert others that it would be worth a call. My bigger problem is, being protestant, what smaller resource is worth picking up from Verbum? I will have fun looking, though.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 3 2016 2:05 AM

Floyd Johnson:
I don't expect there to be any - but it might alert others that it would be worth a call. My bigger problem is, being protestant, what smaller resource is worth picking up from Verbum? I will have fun looking, though.

The coupon code works on logos.com, too.

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JAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 3 2016 1:26 PM

If you deselect the default Catholic filter when browsing the Verbum e-store you will see the complete catalog of Logos Edition resources.

Shopping the Verbum e-store is not as informative though. One example, there is no side panel to alert you to what collections, bundles, or base packages a resource is included in.

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 3 2016 2:26 PM

Actually, I don't mind buying a Catholic resource now and then.  I have one of the Catholic base packages and a number of individual resources. I expect. my first choice will be to find a Catholic resource to add to my library since it was Verbum that supplied the gift. I do wish Mark Shea's (a long time Internet friend) books were available via Verbum; but, alas, I do not think they are.

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Kenute P. Curry | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 3 2016 2:37 PM

I used my coupon and bought a volume of the Navarre Bible. Am trying to collect all of the volumes. Have 2 so far.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 3 2016 3:36 PM

Floyd Johnson:
I do wish Mark Shea's (a long time Internet friend) books were available via Verbum; but, alas, I do not think they are.

One of them is in Pre-Pub, and some stuff co-created with Scott Hahn is also available.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 3 2016 3:39 PM

Floyd Johnson:
I do wish Mark Shea's (a long time Internet friend) books were available via Verbum; but, alas, I do not think they are.

Some are, but in prepub, so you can't use your coupon. And they're a lot easier to find on logos.com. The search function on verbum.com is horrible!

The only thing I can find that's not in prepub is the Catholic Scripture Study International. Some of the volumes seem to be coauthored by Mark Shea.

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 3 2016 4:28 PM

fgh:
Some are, but in prepub, so you can't use your coupon. And they're a lot easier to find on logos.com. The search function on verbum.com is horrible!

Thanks for the heads up. I placed a pre-order for the first one above. I had tried the Verbum search tool and found nothing; though that is how I initially discovered I could use the coupon for LOGOS books. 

Any other recommendations (by Mark or otherwise) will be appreciated.

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Floyd

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 3 2016 7:21 PM

Floyd Johnson:
Any other recommendations (by Mark or otherwise) will be appreciated.

I don't really know what you might like, but here are some titles that are very good and quite likely of at least some interest to you:

Scripture Matters: Essays on Reading the Bible from the Heart of the Church - As Verbum's $.99 this month, now is a great time to pick it up. Scott Hahn is well educated and readable, and he also understands the terminology and ways of speaking of many Protestant groups, as a former Presbyterian minister. I would have recommended this at full price. With the savings, you might be interested in one of the volumes of his journal Letter and Spirit.

Verbum Domini by Pope Benedict XVI is a great, cheap source for top-notch 'official Catholic thinking' on Scripture. There is no greater living Catholic theologian than the present Pope Emeritus. Period.

An Introductory Bibliography for the Study of Scripture: Less Catholic per se, and 26 years old, but still useful.

What It Means to Be a Christian by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger is a truly reader-transforming work. You will not regret the time you spend reading and praying about this. I haven't, anyway.

Spirit and Life: Essays on Interpreting the Bible in Ordinary Time is something of a sequel to Scripture Matters.

The Sayings of the Fathers is my favourite work that Faithlife has on the Desert Fathers. It's a true gem, full of practical and yet surprising wisdom.

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Toby Steele (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 4 2016 10:24 AM

fgh:
The search function on verbum.com is horrible!

fgh, can you please elaborate? How can we better improve the search functionality on verbum.com? What search techniques do you use on logos.com that seem to fail on verbum?

Any suggestions you can provide will be appreciated.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 4 2016 1:16 PM

Toby Steele (Faithlife):
can you please elaborate?

Look above! Neither Floyd nor I could find the collection with By What Authority? in it — and I even knew it existed. Go to https://verbum.com/search?context=product&query=mark%20shea&sortBy=relevance&limit=60&page=1&view=list and tell me where it is. Not among the first 120 results anyway. Or try https://verbum.com/search?context=product&query=by%20what%20authority&sortBy=relevance&limit=60&page=1&view=list. Same result. On logos.com the first search takes me to a special page with all his books and no one elses, and the second has the collection just a little bit down (with the results above equally relevant, not totally irrelevant like on verbum.com). If we can't find the books, how can we buy them?

In advent one of the free books was even more impossible to find. I don't think it was there at all. I think it was the Tabletalk bundle.

I hate verbum.com. I only use it for an extra account with freebies I mean to give away some day. For myself, I go to logos.com. I don't have the time to try to find things on verbum.com. 

One major difference seems to be that if I search for something like By What Authority (without quotes), logos.com prioritizes results which keep the words together, even if those results are further down on a product page (as with a title in a collection), while verbum.com prioritizes results that happen to have one of the words in the title, with the others randomly occurring somewhere else. That's generally pretty useless för search purposes.

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Toby Steele (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 5 2016 8:17 AM

fgh, thank you for your feedback.

fgh:
Neither Floyd nor I could find the collection with By What Authority? in it — and I even knew it existed.

I'm not sure if we plan to feature search results for individual resource titles when they're exclusively sold in collections. I've asked about it and will let you know what I hear.

fgh:
Go to https://verbum.com/search?context=product&query=mark%20shea&sortBy=relevance&limit=60&page=1&view=list and tell me where it is....On logos.com the first search takes me to a special page with all his books and no one elses

Author search results on storefronts other than logos.com is planned. I don't have an ETA at this point.

fgh:
One major difference seems to be that if I search for something like By What Authority (without quotes), logos.com prioritizes results which keep the words together ...

I opened a case to consider using phrase matching by default in storefront searches.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 5 2016 9:59 AM

Toby Steele (Faithlife):
I'm not sure if we plan to feature search results for individual resource titles when they're exclusively sold in collections. I've asked about it and will let you know what I hear.

This is really important, both on verbum.com and logos.com. I've spoken to Phil about it, and I think he (and others at Faithlife understand).

The point is that although Faithlife loves to sell bundles and collections, users will often simply want to purchase and read a particular book. We've already got to search both logos.com and verbum.com to see if that's possible, and the poor search results when a book is hidden in a collection doesn't help. Personally, I use Google when I'm trying to buy books from Logos. It's quicker to search both sites that way, and the results are more reliable.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 5 2016 10:30 AM

Mark Barnes:
This is really important, both on verbum.com and logos.com.

Yes Yes

If FL has something stuck in a collection, I might buy the collection, if I know that the thing I want is in it. Or I may lobby for FL to start selling it separately. But if I can't find it at all, I can't buy it at all, and I might mistakenly put in a thread in the Suggestions forum and/or a Uservoice request for a book FL already has.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 5 2016 7:26 PM

Toby Steele (Faithlife):

fgh:
The search function on verbum.com is horrible!

fgh, can you please elaborate? How can we better improve the search functionality on verbum.com? What search techniques do you use on logos.com that seem to fail on verbum?

I'm not fgh, but I just noticed that sorting by savings still doesn't work properly on Verbum.com, to put it mildly.

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Toby Steele (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 6 2016 8:08 AM

Thanks for the feedback, everyone.

Toby Steele (Faithlife):
I'm not sure if we plan to feature search results for individual resource titles when they're exclusively sold in collections. I've asked about it and will let you know what I hear.

This is part of future plans. I have no ETA at this current time.

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