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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Jan 24 2016 7:47 AM

I came across this feature and seems to be very useful: I can decrease the interlinear help as I progress

Currently for the Hebrew a limit setting of 5000 seems good for me, but I am not sure how the words are counted in that tool. Sometimes the English literal translation is shown for quite common words and sometimes glosses for words that I feel are not so common are hidden

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 24 2016 7:58 AM

Thanks for pointing this out. I noticed that you are using the Logos Now Training Manual. Yesterday I too started going through this same manual. It is quite helpful.

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Andrew Batishko (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 24 2016 10:01 AM

Veli Voipio:

Sometimes the English literal translation is shown for quite common words and sometimes glosses for words that I feel are not so common are hidden

The visibility of the interlinear data is controlled by the frequency of occurrence of the lemma in the resource. Some words (such as אָבִ֣ינוּ in your screenshot) are formed from multiple lemmas. In this case, the interlinear data for the word will be visible if any of the lemmas need to be visible.

If you want to see how this works, right click on the word, then select the lemma on the right and choose "search this resource" on the left. The lemma with the highest number of search results will control visibility, and the search result count will be directly compared against the count you specify in the Reader's Edition Interlinear settings. (The interlinear data will be visible if your settings are equal to or higher than the search result count.)

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 24 2016 10:58 AM

Thanks Andrew for the reply, but unfortunately I did not catch your logic, maybe it is reversed.

But I did some searches as you suggested. With the Greek is seems to work fine.

In Hebrew it looks like the letter-word "wav" in the beginning of the word hides the information. Maybe the functionality in Hebrew needs some more testing. Anyway, I like this feature

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I'll take a look at it on Monday and get back to you.

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 25 2016 1:08 PM

Hi Andrew,

just let you know that the update to 6.9 did not solve the problem.

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Thanks for reporting this bug. I've tracked down the problem, and it should be fixed in 6.10.

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HansK | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 25 2016 3:52 PM

Bruce Dunning:

Thanks for pointing this out. I noticed that you are using the Logos Now Training Manual. Yesterday I too started going through this same manual. It is quite helpful.

I cannot find this manual. I checked my library and did an Update Resources. I have Logos Now and am using the latest version 6.9 (Beta Channel for Mac).

Hans

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 25 2016 3:58 PM

The Logos Now Training manual is a purchasable item - https://www.logos.com/product/55018/logos-now-training-manual 

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HansK | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 25 2016 4:50 PM

Graham Criddle:

The Logos Now Training manual is a purchasable item - https://www.logos.com/product/55018/logos-now-training-manual 

Thanks. Bought it :-)

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 25 2016 6:26 PM

Hans K:
Bought it :-)

I think you will be pleased. What is cool about this resource is that it will include free updates until a new version is released.

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 25 2016 11:10 PM

Andrew Batishko (Faithlife):

Thanks for reporting this bug. I've tracked down the problem, and it should be fixed in 6.10.

Thanks a lot, I'll wait patiently. I am happy to be a help Geeked

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Daniel M | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 28 2016 5:16 AM

This looks like a great feature, I've recently been looking at paper versions of a Readers Hebrew Bible because it wasn't available in Logos. This makes me consider Logos Now more seriously. Could someone tell me, can you use this feature in the Android app? And if so, do you need to be online to use it or can it be used offline as well?

Thanks!

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Jacob Cerone | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 28 2016 6:06 AM

Currently, this feature is not available for the mobile app. I'm looking forward to when we add this functionality!

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Daniel M | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 28 2016 6:12 AM

That makes two of us (and probably a whole lot more)! This kind of functionality would be ideal for mobile use. Do we need to post a mobile suggestion for this or would this receive priority in the developments of the mobile apps anyway?

Thanks!

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 28 2016 6:47 AM

Yes

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 28 2016 2:11 PM

I'm wanting to set this up myself. 

I'm going to be taking my fourth semester of Greek and Hebrew this summer. 

Which Greek and Hebrew interlinears should I use for this, and what would be a good word frequency for me to use as a starting point since I've had three semesters each under me?

Thanks! 

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 28 2016 2:19 PM

Jacob Cerone:

Currently, this feature is not available for the mobile app. I'm looking forward to when we add this functionality!

Me too. Yes

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Jacob Cerone | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 28 2016 2:44 PM

Nathan Parker:

Which Greek and Hebrew interlinears should I use for this

  1. The Lexham Greek-English Interlinear New Testament
  2. The Lexham Greek-English Interlinear New Testament: SBL Edition
  3. The Lexham Greek-English Interlinear Septuagint
  4. The Lexham Greek-English Interlinear Septuagint, Alternative Texts
  5. The Apostolic Fathers Greek-English Interliear
  6. The Lexham Hebrew-English Interlinear Bible

Nathan Parker:

what would be a good word frequency for me to use as a starting point since I've had three semesters each under me?

I think that most Greek Grammar textbooks try and get you down to 50 uses. Most Greek 3 semesters (at seminary) have you learn down to 20 uses (using Metzger's vocabulary aids). Those would be good starting points. If you used a specific grammar, you can always get the flashcard word lists from this faithlife group: https://faithlife.com/word-lists-for-flashcards/activity. You can use the word list as the means to hide the words you know.

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 28 2016 3:13 PM

Jacob Cerone:

Nathan Parker:

Which Greek and Hebrew interlinears should I use for this

  1. The Lexham Greek-English Interlinear New Testament
  2. The Lexham Greek-English Interlinear New Testament: SBL Edition
  3. The Lexham Greek-English Interlinear Septuagint
  4. The Lexham Greek-English Interlinear Septuagint, Alternative Texts
  5. The Apostolic Fathers Greek-English Interliear
  6. The Lexham Hebrew-English Interlinear Bible

Nathan Parker:

what would be a good word frequency for me to use as a starting point since I've had three semesters each under me?

I think that most Greek Grammar textbooks try and get you down to 50 uses. Most Greek 3 semesters (at seminary) have you learn down to 20 uses (using Metzger's vocabulary aids). Those would be good starting points. If you used a specific grammar, you can always get the flashcard word lists from this faithlife group: https://faithlife.com/word-lists-for-flashcards/activity. You can use the word list as the means to hide the words you know.

Sounds good. What's the difference between resource 1&2?

Also, what's a good frequency to start with for Hebrew?

Thanks! 

Nathan Parker

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