New pre-pub: Albert Bengal's Gnomon on the New Testament

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Juanita | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Feb 22 2010 12:34 PM

http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/6076

If you like Alford and Nicoll on the Greek New Testament, please check out this.  I have the pdf scans from Internet Archives which are klunky to use but he is well worth the read.

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Ted Hans | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 22 2010 12:46 PM

Joan Korte:
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Jim VanSchoonhoven | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 22 2010 2:05 PM

This is a very helpful set and fits in really nice with the other sets that you mentioned.  There is a nice set of free pdf files on the internet that are easy to use, but they are not in the same ball park that the Logos resource would be, but I do believe they would actually lead to more Logos sales if people could actually see how good the information is, I am posting this address for that reason, if too many people are offended by this I will take the post down!!! http://www.evanglibrary.org.uk/members/com/nt/bengel/main.htm

I can hardly wait to get this set in the Logos format but I have been waiting about 2 years for some of the other resources that are mentoned on this thread and they still are in production.

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Sharon | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 22 2010 2:40 PM

Joan Korte:

http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/6076

If you like Alford and Nicoll on the Greek New Testament, please check out this.  I have the pdf scans from Internet Archives which are klunky to use but he is well worth the read.

Hi Joan, my dear,

I have already ordered it (thanks for your heads-up) and I have already looked up Gnomon in my Word dictionary.  (It has no suggestions! Huh?)

So all I have left is to ask you what Gnomon means!  (Well, I could actually get out Logos 4 and look it up, but I thought it would be funner this way! Stick out tongue)

LOL

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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 22 2010 3:22 PM

JimVanSchoonhoven:

This is a very helpful set and fits in really nice with the other sets that you mentioned.  There is a nice set of free pdf files on the internet that are easy to use, but they are not in the same ball park that the Logos resource would be, but I do believe they would actually lead to more Logos sales if people could actually see how good the information is, I am posting this address for that reason, if too many people are offended by this I will take the post down!!! http://www.evanglibrary.org.uk/members/com/nt/bengel/main.htm

I can hardly wait to get this set in the Logos format but I have been waiting about 2 years for some of the other resources that are mentoned on this thread and they still are in production.

Thanks for that link. I browsed through a few sections that I've studied recently and decided that this would be a worthwhile purchase. Prepub order placed

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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 22 2010 3:36 PM

Sharon:

Joan Korte:

http://www.logos.com/products/prepub/details/6076

If you like Alford and Nicoll on the Greek New Testament, please check out this.  I have the pdf scans from Internet Archives which are klunky to use but he is well worth the read.

Hi Joan, my dear,

I have already ordered it (thanks for your heads-up) and I have already looked up Gnomon in my Word dictionary.  (It has no suggestions! Huh?)

So all I have left is to ask you what Gnomon means!  (Well, I could actually get out Logos 4 and look it up, but I thought it would be funner this way! Stick out tongue)

γνώμων, ονος, ὁ, (γι-γνώσκω) one that knows or examines, a judge, interpreter, Aesch., Thuc., Xen.

II. the gnomon or index of the sundial, Hdt.

III. οἱ γνώμονες, the teeth that mark a horses age, Xen.

IV. a carpenters rule: metaph. a rule of life, Theogn.

Liddell, H. (1996). A lexicon : Abridged from Liddell and Scott's Greek-English lexicon (167). Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.

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Sharon | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 22 2010 4:36 PM

Jacob Hantla:

γνώμων, ονος, ὁ, (γι-γνώσκω) one that knows or examines, a judge, interpreter, Aesch., Thuc., Xen.

II. the gnomon or index of the sundial, Hdt.

III. οἱ γνώμονες, the teeth that mark a horses age, Xen.

IV. a carpenters rule: metaph. a rule of life, Theogn.

Liddell, H. (1996). A lexicon : Abridged from Liddell and Scott's Greek-English lexicon (167). Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.

Thanks Jacob!  What a great word!

PS  Are you still in the hospital?  Have you found out anything since they ruled out cancer?

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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 22 2010 8:07 PM

Sharon:

Jacob Hantla:

γνώμων, ονος, ὁ, (γι-γνώσκω) one that knows or examines, a judge, interpreter, Aesch., Thuc., Xen.

II. the gnomon or index of the sundial, Hdt.

III. οἱ γνώμονες, the teeth that mark a horses age, Xen.

IV. a carpenters rule: metaph. a rule of life, Theogn.

Liddell, H. (1996). A lexicon : Abridged from Liddell and Scott's Greek-English lexicon (167). Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.

Thanks Jacob!  What a great word!

PS  Are you still in the hospital?  Have you found out anything since they ruled out cancer?

Sharon

Thanks for asking. We still aren't 100% sure and haven't ruled it out completely (still need lung biopsy to do that. But it is likely Crohn's disease that was mimicking lymphoma in a few abnormal ways. An appt tomorrow should help direct us toward further testing and treatment. Thank you so much for your prayers. It's cool how many people have prayed for me.

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Juanita | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 23 2010 3:40 AM

I misspelled his last name, it is Bengel.  Here's much more about him and his works:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Albrecht_Bengel

As far a definition of "gnomon", at first I thought of was my collection of little statues in my front yard.  Big Smile 

This is better: Etymology
From Latin gnomon (pointer), from Greek gnomon (interpreter), from gignoskein, to know. Ultimately from the Indo-European root gno- (to know) that is also the root of knowledge, prognosis, ignore, narrate, and normal

 

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 23 2010 4:18 AM

From my trusty Collins English Dictionary -- 8th Edition (in my Logos library):

gnomon (ˈnǝʊmɒn) n 1 the stationary arm that projects the shadow on a sundial 2 a geometric figure remaining after a parallelogram has been removed from one corner of a larger parallelogram [c16: from Latin, from Greek: interpreter, from gignōskein to know]

My favorite two word-reference websites also have some good info on gnomon:

  • http://www.onelook.com (multi-dictionary search; also has a reverse lookup feature -- look up the definition and it finds a word for you)
  • http://www.wordnik.com (shows you examples of how to use each word in a dictionary, images from Flickr if available, and all kinds of other goodies)

Jacob Hantla:
  

Thanks for asking. We still aren't 100% sure and haven't ruled it out completely (still need lung biopsy to do that. But it is likely Crohn's disease that was mimicking lymphoma in a few abnormal ways. An appt tomorrow should help direct us toward further testing and treatment. Thank you so much for your prayers. It's cool how many people have prayed for me.

Continuing to pray that all goes well with all the testing and treatment. I have some good friends whose daughter has Crohn's disease, and it is manageable but flares up every once in a while. It can get quite severe at times, and she's been in the hospital a lot these past couple of months (so if you'd like to return the favor of being prayed for by us here, pray for E___, age 13; her family are dear Christian friends of mine). It seems to be exacerbated by stress, and sometimes certain foods can make it worse. I don't think there's any known "cure" for it; it's more like diabetes where you have to be on maintenance to keep it at bay. So if that's what it is, you'll have a lifetime of needing to take very good care of yourself. That's something we all should be doing anyway with this one body we've been given by God to take care of for our lifetimes. But some of us are "blessed" with a more immediate reminder of that in the form of a congenital illness or whatever. I pray that it isn't too onerous for you and that your light may shine to all through the ordeal.

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Sharon | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 23 2010 6:28 AM

Jacob,

I'm very familiar with Crohn's.  And if that is what you have, then I praise God that He has given so much information to men in the past so that at this very time it is known how to get it under control, keep it under control, and give you a very normal life. (Not to downplay any of your suffering.)  He has winnowed your path and He has left this (whatever it is) on the path of your life to bring Him glory!  And you are doing just that!  I will continue to pray for you, Jacob.

In Him,

Sharon

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Sharon | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 23 2010 6:37 AM

Joan Korte:

I misspelled his last name, it is Bengel.  Here's much more about him and his works:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Albrecht_Bengel

As far a definition of "gnomon", at first I thought of was my collection of little statues in my front yard.  Big Smile 

This is better: Etymology
From Latin gnomon (pointer), from Greek gnomon (interpreter), from gignoskein, to know. Ultimately from the Indo-European root gno- (to know) that is also the root of knowledge, prognosis, ignore, narrate, and normal

 

Joan,

When I first saw the word gnomon, that's what came to mind, too.  (Not your front yard, though) Smile

But now I can remember it because of "gignoskein", to know, because that reminds me of epignosis, to know experientially!

And as far as Bengel, when you spelled it Bengal, I was reminded of the mountain lions that live on our property.  (Really!)

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Sharon | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 23 2010 6:47 AM

Rosie Perera:

My favorite two word-reference websites also have some good info on gnomon:

  • http://www.onelook.com (multi-dictionary search; also has a reverse lookup feature -- look up the definition and it finds a word for you)
  • http://www.wordnik.com (shows you examples of how to use each word in a dictionary, images from Flickr if available, and all kinds of other goodies)

Rosie,

What a couple of great sites!  Thanks for the tip!

And I am sorry for your friend's child.  My oldest child has Type I Diabetes and it was very hard for him and for us.  We love him so much and we hated to see him deal with something that permeated every minute of his day.  But we were thankful for all the advancement in medicine, knowing that if he had been born 50 years earlier, he would have died from it.  We thanked and praised the Lord for His lovingkindnesses to us!

And you are right about the flares and the triggers, and not just with Crohn's, but with all diseases.  Our having a disease "under control" doesn't mean the same thing as God having it under control!  Praise His Name!

I pray your friends will continue to glorify God in this place.  And I pray God will minister to them in their every need.  I know He will--He promised!

Sharon

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Sharon | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 23 2010 6:54 AM

Accidental double post.  Sorry

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 23 2010 4:47 PM

Sharon:

Rosie Perera:

My favorite two word-reference websites also have some good info on gnomon:

  • http://www.onelook.com (multi-dictionary search; also has a reverse lookup feature -- look up the definition and it finds a word for you)
  • http://www.wordnik.com (shows you examples of how to use each word in a dictionary, images from Flickr if available, and all kinds of other goodies)

What a couple of great sites!  Thanks for the tip!

Oops. I meant "examples of how to use each word in a sentence" and it's now too late to edit my post; but I'm sure you figured that out. Smile

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Sharon | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 23 2010 4:59 PM

Yes, my dear, not to worry!  Thanks, again!Smile

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 24 2010 9:27 PM

Forgot to mention, BTW, that I've placed an order for this. Thanks for alerting me to it.

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ELA | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 11 2010 2:56 PM

Just read Spurgeon's comments on the Gnomon on the New Testament. Thought some others might find it interesting.

"The Gnomon of the New Testament, By John Albert Bengel, is the scholar's delight. He selected the title as modest and appropriate, intending it in the sense of a pointer or indicator, like the sundial; his aim being to point out or indicate the full force and meaning of the words and sentences of the New Testament. He endeavours to let the text itself cast its shadow on his page, believing with Luther that "the science of theology is nothing else but grammar exercised on the words of the Holy Spirit". The editor of the translation published by Messrs. Clarke, says in his preface, "It is quite superfluous to write in praise of the Gnomon of Bengel. Ever since the year in which it was first published, A.D. 1742, up to the present time, it has been growing in estimation, and has been more and more widely circulated among the scholars of all countries. Though modern criticism has furnished many valuable additions to our materials for New Testament exegesis, yet, in some respects, Bengel stands out still `facile princeps' among all who have laboured, or who as yet labour in that important field. He is unrivalled in felicitous brevity, combined with what seldom accompanies that excellence, namely, perspicuity. Terse, weighty, and suggestive, he often, as a modern writer observes, `condenses more matter into a line, than can be extracted from pages of other writers.'" ..... "In the passages which form the subject of controversy between Calvinists and Arminians, Bengel takes the view adopted by the latter, and in this respect I do not concur with him. But whilst he thus gives an undue prominence, as it would seem to me, to the responsibility and freedom of man in these passages, yet, in the general tenor of his work, there breathe such a holy reverence for God's sovereignty, and such spiritual unction, that the most extreme Calvinist would, for the most part, be unable to discover to what section of opinions he attached himself, and as to the controverted passages would feel inclined to say, `Quum talis sis, utinam noster esses.'"
Men with a dislike for thinking had better not purchase the five precious volumes, for they will be of little use to them; but men who love brain work will find fine exercise in spelling out the deep meaning of Bengel's excessively terse sentences. His principles of interpretation stated in his "Essay on the Right Way of Handling Divine Subjects", are such as will make the lover of God's word feel safe in his hands: `Put nothing into the Scriptures, but draw everything from them, and suffer nothing to remain hidden, that is really in them." "Though each inspired writer has his own manner and style, one and the same Spirit breathes through all, one grand idea pervades all." "Every divine communication carries (like the diamond) its own light with it, thus showing whence it comes; no touchstone is required to discriminate it." "The true commentator will fasten his primary attention on the letter (literal meaning), but never forget that the Spirit must equally accompany him; at the same time we must never devise a more spiritual meaning for Scripture passages than the Holy Spirit intended." "The historical matters of Scripture, both narrative and prophecy, constitute as it were the bones of its system, whereas the spiritual matters are as its muscles, blood vessels, and nerves. As the bones are necessary to the human system, so Scripture must have its historical matters. The expositor who nullifies the historical ground work of Scripture for the sake of finding only spiritual truths everywhere, brings death on all correct interpretations. Those expositions are the safest which keep closest to the text."

His idea of the true mode of dying touched me much when I first saw it. He declared that he would make no spiritual parade of his last hours, but if possible continue at his usual works, and depart this life as a person in the midst of business leaves the room to attend to a knock at the door. Accordingly he was occupied with the correction of his proof sheets as at other times, and the last messenger summoned him to his rest while his hands were full. This reveals a calm, well balanced mind, and unveils many of those singular characteristics which enabled him to become the laborious recensor of the various M.S.S., and the pioneer of true Biblical criticism."

from C.H. Spurgeon, Commenting and Commentaries

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