Life after "Send to Kindle" retires

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Rod | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 26 2016 10:40 AM

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I'm actually glad Logos are turning off the Send to Kindle service

Huge disagreement with this statement...

I have a lot of money invested in Kindle books generally so am EXTREMELY disappointed in Logos discontinuing their service.  Your post only serves to help Logos justify to themselves what I think is a bad decision.

I don't have any Android devices and have no desire to go there.  The Kindle is the most popular reading app so will now have to go back to the old method of taking 15 minutes or so to convert a book.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 26 2016 11:34 AM

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Huge disagreement with this statement...

I have a lot of money invested in Kindle books generally so am EXTREMELY disappointed in Logos discontinuing their service.  Your post only serves to help Logos justify to themselves what I think is a bad decision.

I was surprised to find myself writing that. When the announcement was made, my immediate response was that it was "terrible news", as I relied on the service.

Nevertheless, that is the opinion I have come to. It's not intended to make Faithlife feel better about switching the service off. But I can honestly say that whilst I loved the "Send to Kindle" service, reading a Logos book on a Kindle is not as good as reading a Logos book using the Logos app on an e-Ink Android device — at least not for someone who likes to be able to look up references whilst they're reading.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 26 2016 11:55 AM

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I have a lot of money invested in Kindle books generally so am EXTREMELY disappointed in Logos discontinuing their service.  Your post only serves to help Logos justify to themselves what I think is a bad decision.

I don't think this was a decision Logos could avoid making (or agreeing to) - from the little bit of info we were given and from what can be inferred from the stories on the web that tell other e-book sellers' stories, this probably has been pushed down from the big A retailer. 

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 26 2016 3:30 PM

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I don't have any Android devices and have no desire to go there.  The Kindle is the most popular reading app so will now have to go back to the old method of taking 15 minutes or so to convert a book.

But, if you had an android-based e-Ink device you could install both the Kindle and Logos apps and have the best of both worlds, right?

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Al Het | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 27 2016 6:04 PM

Taxee:
Your post only serves to help Logos justify to themselves what I think is a bad decision.

I disagree with this.  I believe that Logos is likely to lose money because of this, and I doubt they would have come to this decision lightly. Logos benefits from people being willing to buy their more expensive versions of books, and have the opportunity to read them on someone else's reader.

For reasons I don't understand, people on this forum have been willing to spend far more money for Logos versions of many "reading" books than if they bought them from a competitor.  Up to now, people were wiling to pay significantly more for books, and then take the time to send those books to their Amazon reader, then download the books, when they could have saved, sometimes significant money buying the book from their competitor, and just opening their reader, and starting to read. 

If it gets considerably harder to convert the books to a Kindle format, or they have to buy additional devices to read their books, people will have even less incentive to pay significantly more for their Logos books, and some of these customers might just start comparing prices, and feeling like it is not worth the extra money.

In fact, it could, conceivably, result in Logos having to lower their prices on books that people don't tend to want to search. 

By the way, I do realize that some people are equally as interested in converting the books they already have, from purchasing packages.  Still, my point is that Logos is more likely to loose money from the result of this.  I'm not sure why many people have felt like Logos somehow WANTED to make this change. 

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 27 2016 6:39 PM

Mark Barnes:

I won't disable WiFi (and don't on the Kindle), but have no other services running. I find that the battery will last for around 5-7 days. I do use my device fairly heavily (perhaps 45 minutes to an hour each day). My Kindle will last for about three times that long with similar usage.

Then that's your own choice of a short battery life.

Wifi on Android is a complete battery waster. I'm sure there must be some reasons to keep it switched on all the time while reading...

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 28 2016 12:08 AM

Jan Krohn:

Mark Barnes:

I won't disable WiFi (and don't on the Kindle), but have no other services running. I find that the battery will last for around 5-7 days. I do use my device fairly heavily (perhaps 45 minutes to an hour each day). My Kindle will last for about three times that long with similar usage.

Then that's your own choice of a short battery life.

Wifi on Android is a complete battery waster. I'm sure there must be some reasons to keep it switched on all the time while reading...

Because without WiFi I can't look up references to resources I haven't downloaded yet, and I can't sync "last read position" between my various devices. Those features are very important to me. I suppose I could keep turning WiFi on and off, but I'd rather just occasionally charge my device. 

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Yasmin Stephen | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 5 2016 6:20 AM

I just got a message from the eBay seller that the post office returned the device to their warehouse because they couldn't reach my address ...!! HmmSad

(Anyway, I can well believe that; a friend went to China some years ago and she spent an inordinately long time with immigration because they were all over the place trying to locate St Lucia. At the time she related that story I found it funny but now ...)

I'll have to think about what to do next. The banggood site, which ships to the US, is still showing sold out.

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Bobby Terhune | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 5 2016 8:29 AM

FYI,

There is a great in depth review of Eink readers on PC Mag called "Best Ebook freaders of 2016, dated March 21, 2016.

 http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400310,00.asp 

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Aaron W | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 11 2016 2:38 PM

After reading all of this, I picked up a Boyue.

It just arrived. I opened it up and I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.  I've never really used an android device.  Is there a place anyone can point me to for the basics of this Boyue?  Need Kindle and Logos for sure.  Any help for a TOTAL noob would be very very welcome.

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Colin | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 11 2016 3:38 PM

Hi Aaron, I'm on my phone and can't multi-task just as well at on my pc but if you search the forum posts for boyue you will find Mark Barnes asking for some help when he got his new.  That forum that helped me a lot when mine arrived.  

Personally I've decided not to install kindle on yet because the page animation when the pages turn is not handled particularly well it seems by the boyue. I'm using mine for logos and books in other formats which can be read by the very versatile ereader program on the boyue. 

Essentially you want to install play store so you can put on logos and kindle (and other apps). This means entering developer mode, hooking up to your computer and following the steps in the guide Mark used. I have to say it wasn't very intuitive  but it wasn't difficult with the extra help Mark and others gave on that thread.  If you find it and try to follow it but still struggle, why not tag onto that other thread and you'll get the help you need. 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 11 2016 4:28 PM

Colin:
Hi Aaron, I'm on my phone and can't multi-task just as well at on my pc but if you search the forum posts for boyue you will find Mark Barnes asking for some help when he got his new.  That forum that helped me a lot when mine arrived.  

Thread => Help requested with Boyue T62+

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Robert Neely | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 11 2016 4:57 PM

key is to tap the 'Settings>About device>Build number' item seven times and then click your heels together!

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Eric Ross | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 11 2016 9:51 PM

I use both my iPad mini and my Kindle Paper white.

iPad Mini:  great for quickly looking things up, navigating through references and doing searches.  Not bad, but the eye strain is higher with this device.   

Kindle PaperWhite:  The best experience by far if you are going to sequentially read one page to the next (like a real book).    It has low eyestrain ranging from pitch black to full sunlight.  This is as close to reading regular paper as you can get on a electronic device.  I definitely would not want to use this device for jumping around between references.

I would love to see a comparison with the Boyue T62+ to see if it is worth the price to still have an e-ink solution.  The copy/export only allows you 100 pages and is a bit of a pain if you suddenly want to read a different book.

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