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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Apr 5 2016 10:54 AM

In the passage guide under systematic theologies I have an assortment of theologies, but no catholic resource.

Checking the Logos store I found this one  that looks good for me:

https://www.logos.com/product/51454/catholic-christianity-a-complete-catechism-of-catholic-beliefs 

Any opinions by the experts?

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 5 2016 2:53 PM

Veli Voipio:
In the passage guide under systematic theologies I have an assortment of theologies, but no catholic resource.

You sound a bit like there was none - actually there are quite a number, e.g those (on an arbitrary passage I'm studying recently, there may be more in my library):

 

Veli Voipio:

Far from being an expert, let alone in RC theology....well,

Peter Kreeft is always a treat (it's unfortunate he has so many books ....would have been great to see him win the MM tournament....) - I enjoy his writing since back in my teen days when I got his book about CS Lewis, Aldous Huxley and JFK meeting after their death (http://www.amazon.com/Between-Heaven-Hell-Somewhere-Kennedy/dp/0877843899 - not yet in Logos, unfortunately). However, this "ST" will discuss a plethora of questions in a short paragraph each - and while it cites the CCC now and then it's still the unofficial thinking of one great author. 

The only "real thing" containing the Roman Catholic ST is the CCC - and if this overwhelms you, I'd recommend Youcat.  

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 5 2016 3:30 PM

Peter Kreeft's book is an easy read and covers all the individual subjects, plus more that what non-Catholic traditions would recognize as systematic theology.  He states in his introduction that his work is not a substitute to the Catechism of the Catholic Church.  If you can only have one, than I can recommend the latter.  Having said that, neither resource comes up for me in the Systematic Theologies in the Passage Guide.

The standard Catholic resource displayed in the Passage Guide for Systematic Theology are the works of Thomas Aquinas.  Several translations/compilations available in Verbum/Logos.  Here are the basics:

https://www.logos.com/product/4246/summa-theologica-english-and-latin-bundle

https://www.logos.com/product/5206/summa-contra-gentiles

Late 19th, early 20th century Catholic Priest Fr. Joseph Pohle has his work in dogmatic theology available in Verbum/Logos and also appears there:

https://www.logos.com/product/4724/dogmatic-theology

There are some other resources but I'm not sure under what circumstances they show up in the Passage Guide ... but they cover the subject:

https://www.logos.com/product/5177/catholic-theology-and-dogma-collection

https://www.logos.com/product/35404/a-manual-of-catholic-theology

https://www.logos.com/product/25028/principles-of-catholic-theology-building-stones-for-a-fundamental-theology

https://www.logos.com/product/26708/systematic-theology-roman-catholic-perspectives-2nd-ed

Balthasar's works are worth serious consideration:

https://www.logos.com/products/search?q=balthasar&Author=6281%7cHans+Urs+von+Balthasar&redirecttoauthor=true

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 6 2016 5:52 AM

Thanks a lot, NB and Steve!

Looks like the https://www.logos.com/product/35404/a-manual-of-catholic-theology shows up in the Systematic theology section. I just need something to show the catholic view in that section.

I have https://www.logos.com/product/51466/a-summa-of-the-summa-the-essential-philosophical-passages-of-st-thomas-aquinas-summa-theologica but it does not show up in the Systematic Theologies

Youcat looks good for actual reading through. https://www.logos.com/product/29612/youcat-youth-catechism-of-the-catholic-church Maybe I'll get that, too

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 6 2016 8:19 AM

Based on your post, It seems that the compilations of Aquinas' work are not tagged in way that they show up in that section.  I have the one you mention and several other translations/compilations and they do not appear as well.

If the full Summa is not in range for you and you can only have one resource, I would strongly recommend the regular Catechism.  It is the one resource the Peter Kreeft's first resource you mention points to, and it is the source of the content and presentation of the faith in YOUCAT.  It is fully indexed to Sacred Scripture, Council Documents, Patristic Writings, Canon Law where appropriate, and has a nice glossary.  From the apostolic letter at the beginning of the Catechism, John Paul II says it is a “valid and legitimate instrument for ecclesial communion” and a “sure norm for teaching the faith”.

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 6 2016 9:14 AM

Steve:
If the full Summa is not in range for you and you can only have one resource, I would strongly recommend the regular Catechism

Ok, so you mean https://www.logos.com/product/17215/catechism-of-the-catholic-church is better than the Manual of Catholic Theology. Did you check that the CCC shows up in the Systematic theologies in the passage guide? Or is it on NB:s picture with another name?

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 6 2016 9:36 AM

Veli Voipio:
Did you check that the CCC shows up in the Systematic theologies in the passage guide?

No it doesn't (as doesn't the YouCat), but Kreeft's book doesn't, either. 

See a PG on John 3:

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 6 2016 9:46 AM

Veli Voipio:
Any opinions by the experts?

See this thread where there was some excellent advice given when I'd asked this very same question last year...

https://community.logos.com/forums/t/106815.aspx

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Veli Voipio | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 6 2016 11:55 AM

Thanks also to James!

I now have all the main theologies/confessions/churches in the Systematic theologies, example from Ephesians 5:21-33

I plan to get CCC as reference and Youcat to read, some day

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 6 2016 1:22 PM

I think you will be happy with the resource you purchased.

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