Searching Greek lemma ANDEQUALS Person doesn't find expected results

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, May 19 2016 5:52 AM

Any ideas why the search shown below doesn't return a hit on Acts 15:26?

Thanks, Graham 

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 19 2016 6:09 AM

Graham Criddle:
Any ideas why the search shown below doesn't return a hit on Acts 15:26?

Perhaps because it's not simply Paul but Paul AND Barnabas?  What do I know though, I never use that feature.

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Jacob Cerone | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 19 2016 6:20 AM

Graham,

Using this search might get better results. I'll have to leave it to the coders to tell you why the other isn't working. Though I suspect that George may be on to something.

 <Lemma = lbs/el/ἄνθρωπος> WITHIN 0 WORDS <Person ~ Paul>

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 19 2016 6:30 AM

George Somsel:

Graham Criddle:
Any ideas why the search shown below doesn't return a hit on Acts 15:26?

Perhaps because it's not simply Paul but Paul AND Barnabas?  What do I know though, I never use that feature.

I wondered about that - but occurrences with multiple people tagged are returned

So unless there is something against BarnabasSmile

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 19 2016 6:34 AM

Hi Jacob

Jacob Cerone:
 <Lemma = lbs/el/ἄνθρωπος> WITHIN 0 WORDS <Person ~ Paul>

That works - thanks.

Looking into it a bit further, what I think is happening is that the "Paul tagging" extends over more than the single word and so it isn't matching my original search

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 20 2016 4:03 AM

Graham Criddle:
Looking into it a bit further, what I think is happening is that the "Paul tagging" extends over more than the single word and so it isn't matching my original search

ANDEQUALS caused confusion when used with the new datatypes (Person, Place, Thing, etc.) that came with Logos 6, because the datatype could extend over multiple words whose 'location' was NOT exactly the same as any one of those words in a bible. For example, in Acts 15:25-26 <Person Paul> covers "Paul, men" and it was agreed that WITHIN was the best way to resolve it e.g. <Lemma = lbs/el/ἄνθρωπος> WITHIN <Person Paul>.

Try <Lemma = lbs/el/ἄνθρωπος> WITHIN 1 WORDS <Person Paul> to see the affect of non-zero separation.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 20 2016 6:24 AM

Thanks Dave

Very helpful, Graham

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 20 2016 7:29 AM

I was looking at this trying to understand the Factbook entry on Paul and the "lemma" section

It shows 12 entries but doesn't include all the ones found by searching (left-hand of diagram)

Anyone know how the Factbook entries are determined?

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Philana R. Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 23 2016 3:44 PM

Graham Criddle:

I was looking at this trying to understand the Factbook entry on Paul and the "lemma" section

It shows 12 entries but doesn't include all the ones found by searching (left-hand of diagram)

Anyone know how the Factbook entries are determined?

Graham, I reproduced this and have filed a case with development.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 23 2016 9:02 PM

Thanks Philana

Graham

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