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Mel Longtin | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Jun 6 2016 4:31 PM

I am thinking of buying a I Pad Pro. How much memory do you recommend? 128/256?

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 6 2016 5:59 PM

Mel, if you follow Logos recommendations (download resources you need, not your whole library), and if the Logos app were your only app, you'd be lucky to hit a gbyte.

Therefore, what else? I run Accordance also ... that's 4g. My maps, another 10g, Kindle books, maybe a gbyte. Art, 3g. Pictures/videos ... hmmmm.

Hopefully you get the point ... depends on what else you have. Logos isn't a big footprint unless you go crazy. And even then.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 6 2016 6:00 PM

Mel Longtin:
How much memory do you recommend? 128/256?

For clarification: The iPad Pro (as with all iOS devices) runs the mobile app (rather than the desktop app). You can download books, but it isn't recommended that you download your entire library. Many features run "in the cloud" and not offline. As such, the amount of memory is largely irrelevant for Logos purposes.

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Paul Strickert | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 6 2016 6:20 PM

The caveat about downloading all your resources is that it takes time to do it and uses up your storage space.  I've kept about 4000 resources (about 40 GB) on my device and never had a problem.  I currently have the iPad Pro 128 GB model, so I have plenty of space available.

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Greg | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 6 2016 7:43 PM

Mel Longtin:

I am thinking of buying a I Pad Pro. How much memory do you recommend? 128/256?

Mel, 

I just bought one. The 128 GB should be fine for Logos. Its video, music, and media that will take up your space. Will you be putting much of that on your device?

Also, consult this website for prices: http://prices.appleinsider.com/#ipad

I just bought my iPad Pro from B&H and paid $866 for my wifi only 128 GB model, when buying it from Apple would have cost me $1,027. It had free shipping, plus if you live in any state but New York, you don't have to pay sales tax on it either. So that'll save you even more. This is for a brand new iPad too.

Hope this helps.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 6 2016 8:45 PM

I can't stress enough that it just isn't wise to download thousands of books on the mobile app. It isn't designed for it, and many problems can come your way.

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Paul Strickert | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 6 2016 9:19 PM

I see nothing on the iPad app support page that describes potential problems (other than download time and space considerations) if the user downloads thousands of resources.  Maybe I missed it.  Or maybe, if there is a real concern, Logos should highlight it on the support page.  Like I said, I've always had thousands of resources on my iPads over the years and never had a problem.

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mike | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 6 2016 11:50 PM

Greg Masone:

I just bought one. The 128 GB should be fine for Logos. Its video, music, and media that will take up your space. Will you be putting much of that on your device?

Also, consult this website for prices: http://prices.appleinsider.com/#ipad

I just bought my iPad Pro from B&H and paid $866 for my wifi only 128 GB model, when buying it from Apple would have cost me $1,027. It had free shipping, plus if you live in any state but New York, you don't have to pay sales tax on it either. So that'll save you even more. This is for a brand new iPad too.

Hope this helps.

Bought my iPad Pro 12.9" 128gb for $750 out the door from Ebay, I even posted the deal here. :P

In landscape mode, I feel like reading a real book. :)

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 7 2016 4:30 AM

You can choose to ignore my warnings to your heart's content, but I spend hundreds of hours in the forums and can tell you the issues are real. I am not saying that every user will have an issue. I am saying that the issues happen frequently enough, and the headaches are big enough to make heeding my advice a wise choice. FWIW - FL employees have validated my advice on this issue many times in the forums. 

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 7 2016 5:58 AM

Logos is not well known for informing customers of anything.  I too went pretty long without Logos app issues, watching others 'please try re-installing' when any hiccup occurred.

Until the day it happened. That's when I decided 'done' ... Logos' easy-going habits of sloppiness are not my cup of tea.

Now, I've yet to have an issue with Kindle, Accordance, or Olivetree. Laridian wanted a re-install for a new resource format ... I re-installed and now I have the free KJV as my library. I'm not downloading again.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 7 2016 11:09 AM

I do not have everything downloaded... I do however have over 1200 items downloaded.... 3 times in several years of using it i have had to redownload everything... once because there was some sort of hiccup in the system that deleted everything of the iPad due to lack of Faithlife server response (this has since been corrected) another time was a very similar incident a few months later but was a separate issue. Before that I had an incident were there was corruption of some type where I did need to remove and redownload everything. In general I have few issues with a large number of resources downloaded. That said one can easily compare it in someways to a house of cards one thing going bad can result in downloading everything again. Please go ahead and do it but understand the time may happen when you need to completely reinstall everything.

-Dan

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 7 2016 11:56 AM

Dan, How is the iPad Pro 9.7 working out?  Care to give us an update?

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 7 2016 2:05 PM

My 9.7 is fabulous.. Everything runs smoothly and do not regret getting it for a second. When i first had it weird restarts were happening a few times a week... but this glitch seems to have been solved by the latest iOS although this glitch was more like a screen saver in that restart was almost instantaneous. The speakers on it have great sound. I hope this iPad will server me as long or longer than the first one i owned a gen 3.... Which I gave to my mother in law and she is quite happy with it.

-Dan

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Paul Strickert | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 7 2016 2:40 PM

Dan Francis:

I do not have everything downloaded... I do however have over 1200 items downloaded.... 3 times in several years of using it i have had to redownload everything... once because there was some sort of hiccup in the system that deleted everything of the iPad due to lack of Faithlife server response (this has since been corrected) another time was a very similar incident a few months later but was a separate issue. Before that I had an incident were there was corruption of some type where I did need to remove and redownload everything. In general I have few issues with a large number of resources downloaded. That said one can easily compare it in someways to a house of cards one thing going bad can result in downloading everything again. Please go ahead and do it but understand the time may happen when you need to completely reinstall everything.

-Dan

Yes, I remember when that system glitch occurred.  Like everyone, I had to reinstall.  But the problem had nothing to do with the number of resources downloaded.  Correct?  Even if I had downloaded only 10 resources, I still would've had to reinstall them. 

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 7 2016 2:47 PM

Paul Strickert:
Yes, I remember when that system glitch occurred.  Like everyone, I had to reinstall.  But the problem had nothing to do with the number of resources downloaded.  Correct?  Even if I had downloaded only 10 resources, I still would've had to reinstall them. 

That is very true just more of a pain for those of us who had many to do...

-Dan

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Greg | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 7 2016 3:14 PM

Does everyone know that you can manage your downloads within the Logos desktop app?

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2016 11:22 AM

Dan Francis:

My 9.7 is fabulous.. Everything runs smoothly and do not regret getting it for a second. ...

That's really nice, Dan.  A very nice case as well.  I'm still thinking about upgrading my older iPad.  Haven't decided on the size.

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Mel Longtin | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2016 12:11 PM

Thanks Alabama.

Is Logos fully functional on the iPad pro as it is on a desktop? Is the functionality any different between the Pro and the iPad?  Thanks, Mel
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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2016 12:24 PM

Mel Longtin:

Is Logos fully functional on the iPad pro as it is on a desktop?

No.  The desktop runs the full desktop version of Logos.  iOS devices run the mobile version of Logos. They are different. 

Mel Longtin:

Is the functionality any different between the Pro and the iPad?

Functionality of the iOS version of Logos is the same on all iOS devices.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2016 12:36 PM

Steve:

Dan Francis:

My 9.7 is fabulous.. Everything runs smoothly and do not regret getting it for a second. ...

That's really nice, Dan.  A very nice case as well.  I'm still thinking about upgrading my older iPad.  Haven't decided on the size.

For me it was a no brainer. I did look at the 12.9 which was roughly  the same weight as my iPad 3rd Gen... but for me it felt less portable. I have a small bag that my iPad first into along with my wallet and various other things medication (my migraines and IBS (really mostly under control with diet) means i always want them handy) as well as tape measure multitool glasses cleaning stuff... yes I am one of those everything but the kitchen sink types. But after going to a best buy and opening the same PDF up on all screens I found it readable on all three sizes (although felt small on the mini) so i decided the original size was best for me. As for the case it was one of cheaper ones I could on eBay with a cross added to it......

-Dan

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