ESV edition question - Logos vs. print

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Kenneth P. McCaulley | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2016 6:41 AM

I don't regularly refer to the ESV, but this Sunday I quoted it from my Logos ESV, and found it did not match the print editions of those in the congregation who were using the ESV.  

In 2 Peter 1:19 my Logos ESV reads, "And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed ..."

In my MacArthur Study Bible ESV the same line reas, "And we have something more sure, the prophetic word ..."

Has anyone run into this issue?  Is there an update I'm missing?

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 11 2016 7:11 AM

Kenneth P. McCaulley:
Has anyone run into this issue?  Is there an update I'm missing?

I can't speak to this specific passage. However, you should be aware that the ESV has had a number of updates, which are considered the "same" translation. As soon as FL can get the updates rolled out, they do. If your print edition is either newer or older than the FL "Logos Edition," they will not match where the differences occur. 

EDIT: You can google "ESV changes" and likely find a number of articles about it (unrelated to FL).

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Randall Cue | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 11 2016 7:53 AM

Logos is using the 2011 text while the MacArthur Study Bible is using the 2007 text.

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Jonathan Pitts | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 11 2016 8:46 AM

Here's a list of the changes made in 2011:

http://bible-researcher.com/esv2011changes.pdf 

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 11 2016 9:30 AM

alabama24:
However, you should be aware that the ESV has had a number of updates, which are considered the "same" translation. As soon as FL can get the updates rolled out, they do. If your print edition is either newer or older than the FL "Logos Edition," they will not match where the differences occur. 
I had no idea. I wonder if other translations will start doing this.

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 11 2016 12:11 PM

Matthew C Jones:

alabama24:
However, you should be aware that the ESV has had a number of updates, which are considered the "same" translation. As soon as FL can get the updates rolled out, they do. If your print edition is either newer or older than the FL "Logos Edition," they will not match where the differences occur. 
I had no idea. I wonder if other translations will start doing this.

I had been aware of this situation from previous discussions on the forums. The downside is the issue the OP has encountered  and by extension the fact we can not compare the changes in the text comparison tool, like can be done with NIV84, TNIV and NIV2011 or NASB, NASB95 if you own the different translations.  The upside is we do not have to pay for  new copy of the translation like we did with these other translations.  

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 11 2016 12:16 PM

As well, the changes made between 2001 and 2007: http://www.bible-researcher.com/esv2007.html

Practically all of the changes were minor and improved the translation (though a few could be disputed I suppose). The ESV translation philosophy has been consistently maintained.

Since readers are made aware that this is a translation and not an inspired Manuscript, I see it as a positive.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 11 2016 12:47 PM

Disciple of Christ (doc):
The downside is the issue the OP has encountered  and by extension the fact we can not compare the changes in the text comparison tool, like can be done with NIV84, TNIV and NIV2011 or NASB, NASB95 if you own the different translations.  The upside is we do not have to pay for  new copy of the translation like we did with these other translations.

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