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John Eggen | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 25 2010 11:45 AM

Glad to hear these are planned features!  I can't wait to have both.

I think whatever makes highlighting and notes simple and easy to use (like Kindle simple) is the way to go.  If it takes more than a few taps it becomes tedious and is incomparable to a highlighter & paper combo.

 

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Jeff Loven | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 25 2010 4:57 PM

As a faithful Logos iPhone app user I hate to say this, but the Olive Tree Reader iPhone app is very well designed and has an impressive list of features - not to mention a very usable interface. Personally, I would make constant use of the following features on the Logos iPhone app (assuming the appropriate items synced to the regular software!!!!!!):

  1. Notes (sync)
  2. Highlighting/visual markup (sync)
  3. Bookmarks (sync)
  4. Split-screen usability/reading
  5. Text and background color adjustment
  6. Offline searching, Passage Guide, Bible Word Study, etc. usage

I realize this is a long list of features that will require significant effort get up and running, but I believe they are all extremely valuable! 

As always, the Logos team continues to do an amazing job! Keep up the awesome work!

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Dan Sheppard | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 25 2010 7:13 PM

Peter William John Baptiste SFO:
I am very glad to hear that both highlighting (text markup) and annotations are definitely "in the works", at least in as much as they are planned.  Regarding delivery date, may I suggest that just a simple highlighter to start off with is the top priority?  It would be great if very soon we could at least just markup our books with even just a simple yellow highlighter (online or offline) that syncs with our desktop Logos installation, so that we can easily find again anything we thought was important while reading books on the iPhone.

 

I agree that expediting the availability of it is most important, in contrast to getting all the colors, lines, etc.  Those are secondary.

To begin with, whichever is easier: one solid underline or one simple color - yellow or blue, say.

The simple example would be to emulate that large Seattle bookstore online, which came up with an e-reader which rhymes with "spindle".  You click on the iphone screen, and two dots appear.  You pull on one dot and it extends the selection.  Once chosen, since you have two points on screen, it knows to bring up the menu of  TWO selections: notes or highlight.  You pick highlight and yellow coloring appears.

 

 

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Aaron Knotts | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 25 2010 7:34 PM

Dan Sheppard:

I agree that expediting the availability of it is most important, in contrast to getting all the colors, lines, etc.  Those are secondary.

agreed Yes +1

Dan Sheppard:
...emulate that large Seattle bookstore online, which came up with an e-reader which rhymes with "spindle"....

LOL Big Smile

Dan Sheppard:
...Once chosen, since you have two points on screen, it knows to bring up the menu of  TWO selections: notes or highlight...."

This would seem to be the sticking point. Currently a click and hold 'selects' a word and offers [search the Bible for] and [Bible Word Study on]. A quick tap is the "info / toolbar" screen, although it seems a downward swipe will also achieve this.  Is it possible that a quick tap would then perform the typical iPhone select (with the handles around a word), then the contextual menu that ususally pops us is "select all / copy / paste", whereby it could be "add note / add highlight"?

I hope this makes sense.....thinking out loud.

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Dan Sheppard | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 28 2010 4:16 PM

Aaron Knotts:
 Is it possible that a quick tap would then perform the typical iPhone select (with the handles around a word), then the contextual menu that ususally pops us is "select all / copy / paste", whereby it could be "add note / add highlight"?

 

Perhaps this is what you're saying, but why not just "select all / copy / paste /note /highlight"?????

 

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Ed Stone | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 29 2010 5:37 AM

Bob, there is one Bible app I use now for my iPhone (while waiting for functionality and key Bibles in Logos Smile) that I think does multicolor highlighting brilliantly.  It also has a really great way of doing Strongs inline that really has a great workflow feel to it.

If you are interested in knowing the name, feel free to contact me and I will send the name of the app offline.

Ed Stone

 

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Jeff Loven | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 29 2010 7:57 AM

Ed Stone:

If you are interested in knowing the name, feel free to contact me and I will send the name of the app offline.

Ed Stone

 

Ahhh....come on Ed, don't play like that! HAHA! Does this unnamed app share initials with the Old Testament......  ;0 ?!?!

Blessings!

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Gabriel Powell | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 29 2010 10:08 AM

I agree with Peter... one simple highlighter should be sufficient first time around. Even in the L4 I only use one highlighter, so I don't need multiple options, though I understand why some would.

But the important thing in addition to highlighting is making sure it syncs to the computer.

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April Pyle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 29 2010 10:24 AM

Ditto!!!  Pretty please, Logos.  This one is really valuable.

April

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sffoodie | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 12 2010 12:48 PM

I haven't purchased logos yet and have some questions about the markups & highlighting. I am on a Mac (praying the Mac version at least makes it to beta soon!) and it's important for me to sync my highlights, notes, and precept markups to my iPad. 

 

Are you guys saying that those features are not in Logos 4?

or that they don't sync to iphone/ipad? 

 

or both?

 

thanks

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Jeff Loven | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 12 2010 1:19 PM

Yup, unfortunately that's what we're saying...

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Kevin Grady | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 12 2010 2:16 PM

OK that is a question I have had and could not find answers too.  I also have other iPhone Bible software that will allow me to do that but not in Logos.  To be honest, I was thinking about having an iPad and using that inside of my laptop.  I could use it for reading the bible, comparing translations on verses, have my notes and my sermon.  Would be great if you could just create a link in the message, hit it and it would turn to that page in the Bible.  Has anyone been able to do that yet?

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Jeff Loven | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 12 2010 3:49 PM

Kevin Grady:

  Would be great if you could just create a link in the message, hit it and it would turn to that page in the Bible.  Has anyone been able to do that yet?

What you're hoping for is possible on the full version of the software on your laptop. It is not possible, unfortunately, as of yet on the iPhone app. Which of these was your question referring to? 

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Kevin Grady | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 12 2010 10:18 PM

I didn't know you could do that.  I HATE the new home page and wish it was more like the old 3 version.  I am so lost on 4.  I was thinking it would be so nice to have a bible open, have my notes there as well.. and for my next point, just click on a link and it will take me to my next note and verse.   I am not so much caring about iPhone as I am for i Pad. However after looking at HP's possible pad, slate or whatever, I think that maybe worth waiting for.  I should be able to install the full software and it will have a USB 2 port as well as a camera and WiFi and 64 gb drive.  Will run windows 7 and be like a laptop with just the screen.  That would be nice to be able to put the whole program on.  But anyway.. I am more interested in the i Pad and since they do not have a forum for that, I figured someone may know.

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Terry Poperszky | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 13 2010 7:39 AM

Kevin Grady:
 But anyway.. I am more interested in the i Pad and since they do not have a forum for that, I figured someone may know.

I can't address your question, but I can assure you that at this time, the iPhone forum is the place to post iPad questions. Interestingly enough when you call for support on an iPhone/iPad issue, you are given to the Mac support group.

 

 

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Dave Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 14 2010 8:34 AM

Just adding my $.02 to the discussion. At first I really wanted my notes to sync to the iPhone app. It would be nice to read notes but I don't see myself typing a lot of notes on my iPhone, I'd have to toggle between what I was reading and what I'm typing.

Then over time I realized how I was using the mobile app. More as a book reader than researching topics. For me I'd prefer to have a simple highlighting tool. I'd even be happy with it just being available in books that are not the Bible. So by "clicking' on a word would bring up a highlight option instead of search. I'd be happy with it being a mobile style so I can search for it back on the PC/Mac and type up my notes. 

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sffoodie | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 14 2010 9:35 AM

Jeff Loven:

  1. Notes (sync)
  2. Highlighting/visual markup (sync)
  3. Bookmarks (sync)
  4. Split-screen usability/reading
  5. Text and background color adjustment
  6. Offline searching, Passage Guide, Bible Word Study, etc. usage

 

I agree with all of this. Specifically, I think the iPad is the killer bible study app and I want to make it my primary study tool. Taking notes and marking up (I use precept) on the iPad and syncing with my mac is imperative. I would like to see more effort towards the iPad because it really is the best way to study the bible. I won't purchase Logos until those two things are available on both mac and iPad

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Dan Higgins | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 14 2010 8:54 PM

One more for highlights and markups.  I'm not a big fan of Olive Tree.  (I like Mantis better for the UI.  I don't like split screen when space is so limited, Mantis has a cool approach.  But Mantis lacks resources.)  Obviously my greatest investment in resources has been in Logos.  Would be great to have the highlighting.   And have it sync with the highlights I create on the desktop.

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Kellogg Family | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 15 2010 11:17 AM

I agree, it would be nice ot have a very basic highlighting and notes thing,( like a basic yellow highlighter is you select text and press highlight, or add note to add note to text).

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 11 2010 6:21 AM

Bob Pritchett:
Any suggestions on how to handle choosing from large highlight palettes on a small iPhone screen? Let you pick a highlight and then just use that one through a quick UI? Or make it easy to pick from, say, your last three used?

This is where I believe more control of the mobile versions in the desktop version is needed. For instance, the desktop version information page for a resource should have "available in mobile format" on it with the  option to download, view, or hide it. it would be the same for highlighting. in order for a highlight to be available on a mobile app a box must be checked stating "make this available on mobile devices." A single control in the program settings would hide or display these settings, defaulting to hide.

so it would work like this. When I buy my IPad I would go into program settings on my desktop and select "show mobile options?" If I do not change this setting to yes then everything would be available on my mobile device. If I change it to yes options become available throughout the program. Reading plans could be deselected from showing up on mobile devices through the resource panel, as could resources. Right clicking on "Reading Plan" in the "File" tab would have an option that can be toggled somehow to select all reading plans for mobile use or select all to turn off mobile use. Same option would be on the highlighting panel.

That would at least allow someone to easily "clean up" the clutter on the mobile device.

 

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