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steve haworth | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 12 2010 1:05 PM

one suggestion though when highlighting comes ...it would be great to see all the highlighted sentences gathered in one place, for a quick overview of the important points. These notes hyper linked to the actual pages too for more reading on the context of the highlighted notes

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Adam Tucker | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 12 2010 2:42 PM

Yes, that would be great! I love that feature in iBooks.

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Jonathan | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 12 2010 4:49 PM

Can someone explain to me what Bob means by:

Bob Pritchett:

dependent on our porting our primary display engine

What does this mean for the current Iphone/Ipad app? A complete UI redesign? Simply changes "under the hood?"

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 13 2010 7:01 AM

Jonathan:

Can someone explain to me what Bob means by:

Bob Pritchett:

dependent on our porting our primary display engine

What does this mean for the current Iphone/Ipad app? A complete UI redesign? Simply changes "under the hood?"

It was explained by Dave Dunkin when he posted the following:

The seemingly plateaued state of the app is because we were hitting the limits of what we could do with small changes and are now working on big changes, specifically integrating the full Logos display engine. Big changes take longer. Notes and highlighting are coming, just not as soon as we would all like. Thanks for your patience.

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Jonathan | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 13 2010 11:39 AM

Kevin A. Purcell:

Jonathan:

Can someone explain to me what Bob means by:

Bob Pritchett:

dependent on our porting our primary display engine

What does this mean for the current Iphone/Ipad app? A complete UI redesign? Simply changes "under the hood?"

It was explained by Dave Dunkin when he posted the following:

The seemingly plateaued state of the app is because we were hitting the limits of what we could do with small changes and are now working on big changes, specifically integrating the full Logos display engine. Big changes take longer. Notes and highlighting are coming, just not as soon as we would all like. Thanks for your patience.

I guess I still don't understand. What do they mean by "full Logos display engine?"

 

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Dave Dunkin (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 13 2010 11:49 AM

The display engine is the code that lays out and draws resource content to the screen. It's analogous to WebKit or Gecko in the HTML world.

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Dan Sheppard | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 14 2010 7:35 PM

Dave Dunkin:
It's analogous to WebKit or Gecko in the HTML world.

 

Does this mean that Bob is going to change the logo and dress up in one of those cute lizard costumes?

 

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Michael Green | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 18 2010 6:15 PM

I'm sure this is covered in this thread, but not having the time to check, let me add this, or merely add my vote for this:

Highlighting feature that:

1. Is listable (view my book by highlights, like a table of contents).

2. searchable (I should be able to search within my highlights)

3. syncable (darnit all - but if I highlight in L4 or IOS, the highlight should appear in sync)

 

Now, since it isn't implemented yet, let me give you a suggested implementation. 

When I 'double-click' a word in IOS, have the text selection (as in copy/paste in email) appear.  Include the handles so I can select more than what I have selected by default.  Finally, once I've selected something, provide some default menu options (like copy/paste in email shows "copy, cut, select all, etc) like "copy, highlight, notes, study guide, define".

 

 

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April Pyle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 8 2010 8:42 AM

Michael Green:

Now, since it isn't implemented yet, let me give you a suggested implementation. 

When I 'double-click' a word in IOS, have the text selection (as in copy/paste in email) appear.  Include the handles so I can select more than what I have selected by default.  Finally, once I've selected something, provide some default menu options (like copy/paste in email shows "copy, cut, select all, etc) like "copy, highlight, notes, study guide, define".

How on earth do you double-click on the Iphone?.  I've tried and tried and I keep getting the look up dialog box.  I find the iphone app worthless for anything but reading and little of that since we cannot highlight and copy/paste.  I've always read with a highlighter in hand.  Alas, I'm forced to purchase the needed books in Olive Tree where copying and pasting into Evernote is so simple.  I love the way it's done and if I didn't have so much money tied up in Logos, I'd do a lot more in Olive Tree.

Our pastor is preaching an 8 or 9 week series.  I take notes in Church on Evernote and when I need a Bible reference, I copy and paste from the Olive Tree version of the Bible into the Evernote Note.  Each week, I append to the previous note adding the current date and dividing line.  I love the way Olive Tree allows you to select a verse and then just down arrow to add additional verses. 

Whoever in here suggested Evernote and Olive Tree, I thank you profusely.  I used to take hand written notes and usually never used them.  I use Evernote constantly for everything, even my Words with Friends scrabble game.

 

April

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Jon | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 18 2010 6:31 PM

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I agree highlights are important.

As to how to implement. I would say when you press and hold on a word a handle above the first letter of the word and below the last letter of the word should appear with the menu below allowing you to ‘Search the Bible for “(the word)”’ and ‘Bible word Study on “(the word)”’. When you move the handles  it could add to this menu “Highlight”, “Add notes” and the other options could disappear when the handles are moved, though I don’t know why searching for multiple words wouldn’t be disallowed. It would also seem like adding an options for “Copy to clipboard” would be simple to this menu.

When you click “Highlight” a list of highlight options could appear, maybe last 2 used highlights with the option to select other not recently used options, or like DocsToGo app with 9 options (either most recent or standard) and a button below for more. Than a return to the previous menu with a “Done” options because you might also want to add notes to that same highlighted area.

When you click “Add notes” the notes interface would stack above like the “Bible Word Study” interface shows up. Then you can add your notes and click “Done” to save.

I would say that a simple yellow highlighter would great to start but from the technical side it would seem like all the back end has to be in place for just this simple options when the other could be just a little more work.

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Ed Faalam | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 23 2010 7:30 PM

Yes, I often find it frustrating, to resort to jotting down the important portion I am reading so i could go back to it later.  If I could highlight it, and maybe copy and paste, my iPhone would really a prized pastoral tool for me.

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Chad Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 20 2011 10:24 AM

Honestly, I would much prefer Logos just provide the ability to do a simple yellow highlighter option for us ASAP while in the meantime working out the kinks toward allowing a full palette of markups. Just a plain highlighter would at least allow us to later skip through our markups in L4 and quickly review what stuck out in our reading. Eventually, more options for highlights and markups would be wonderful, but I think most of us our just begging for something sometime soon. 

I definitely stand with all of those who agree that highlighting is an essential tool to our Bible study. (Notes being a distant second.) Without these tools, ebooks would never be a viable route. Thankfully Logos grew to understand this months after launching L4. Hopefully the app will development will catch on as well...

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Henry Au | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 20 2011 10:37 AM

I love logos and I am also the user of BibleReader. I have invested much more money in Logos than any other platform. The new implementation of note/tag/highlight in BR5 is very powerful and I hope Logos will catch up with others. Though I understand Logos for iOS is just in their 1.x version. I think I can do most of my bible studies in iPad when the platform becomes mature. Keep up the good work!

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Doug Lumpkin | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 20 2011 5:24 PM

Not having highlight capabilities is getting very old.  I constantly find myself using workarounds and having to take my work outside of logos.

 

I appreciate the effort to do it correctly, but the slow march to simple capabilities is causing me to spend my time and money on other products...  Disappointing since I have spent more money on logos than literally anything else I own (minus 2 cars and a house).

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Philana Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 22 2011 9:26 AM

April Strong:

Michael Green:

Now, since it isn't implemented yet, let me give you a suggested implementation. 

When I 'double-click' a word in IOS, have the text selection (as in copy/paste in email) appear.  Include the handles so I can select more than what I have selected by default.  Finally, once I've selected something, provide some default menu options (like copy/paste in email shows "copy, cut, select all, etc) like "copy, highlight, notes, study guide, define".

How on earth do you double-click on the Iphone?.  I've tried and tried and I keep getting the look up dialog box.  I find the iphone app worthless for anything but reading and little of that since we cannot highlight and copy/paste.  I've always read with a highlighter in hand.  Alas, I'm forced to purchase the needed books in Olive Tree where copying and pasting into Evernote is so simple.  I love the way it's done and if I didn't have so much money tied up in Logos, I'd do a lot more in Olive Tree.

Our pastor is preaching an 8 or 9 week series.  I take notes in Church on Evernote and when I need a Bible reference, I copy and paste from the Olive Tree version of the Bible into the Evernote Note.  Each week, I append to the previous note adding the current date and dividing line.  I love the way Olive Tree allows you to select a verse and then just down arrow to add additional verses. 

Whoever in here suggested Evernote and Olive Tree, I thank you profusely.  I used to take hand written notes and usually never used them.  I use Evernote constantly for everything, even my Words with Friends scrabble game.

 

 

Did you know that you can take your notes within Olive Tree, and set it to sync your notes with Evernote automatically, if you are making a note about a verse, you don't need to take the note in Evernote.

Blessings

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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 22 2011 1:43 PM

Jonathan:

I guess I still don't understand. What do they mean by "full Logos display engine?"

The display engine is the way that the software takes the raw data from the book files and translates it into the way we see it on the screen. There is a lot of data in the books that are "behind the scenes". The way that Logos on your computer displays books allows for things like highlighting, notes, sympathetic highlighting, and other things. The way that the first Logos app for iOS did it, none of these things were possible. It was just taking the text and making it look nice on the screen,  and not utilizing as much of the behind the scenes data as your PC Logos does. 

Now that they have rewritten the display engine for iOS, it will be able to do more of the things in time that your computer can do, like notes and markups. These weren't possible with the way that the old app was written; now that they have completely rewritten the display engine, those functions and more (like page number display, probably interlinear display, etc) will be possible. 

Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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Jon | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 29 2011 4:24 PM

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Is there any estimate as to how soon highlighting will come to logos? I love logos and I hate telling people to buy/use something else because there are no highlighting and notes. What good is a Bible or any book for that matter if you cannot highlight or add notes? So please give us an idea as to when highlighting might make it to Logos so I can tell people when to hold out for it instead of get something else.

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 31 2011 5:44 AM

There has bee no publicly stated estimate. Hoping soon!

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Ralph A. Abernethy III | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 31 2011 8:08 AM

How long, O Lord?

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Kaye Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 31 2011 11:06 AM

I've had to try out a free iPad app that allows some highlighting and note taking until Logos includes it.  I know it won't move over to Logos so it's only for temporary stuff but it's been fun to have that ability again and I look forward to doing the same (and better!) in Logos for iPad some day.

K

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