Donnie Hale: Kyle G. Anderson:We discussed something like this but unfortunately it does not look like it will be able to happen at this time. If this has been answered before, my apologies. Will this version of ESV be a new resource, or will it completely replace the current ESV resource? I much prefer that it be a new resource. And, if it is, the text comparison tool will make the changes pretty apparent. Donnie
Kyle G. Anderson:We discussed something like this but unfortunately it does not look like it will be able to happen at this time.
If this has been answered before, my apologies. Will this version of ESV be a new resource, or will it completely replace the current ESV resource? I much prefer that it be a new resource. And, if it is, the text comparison tool will make the changes pretty apparent.
Donnie
It will replace the current ESV resource.
Donnie Hale:a helpful summary of the situation
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Kyle G. Anderson:It will replace the current ESV resource
Is that a requirement of the publisher? Or a FL decision? If the latter, can it be reconsidered? Obviously, I don't know all the implications.
Thanks for answering,
Donnie Hale: Kyle G. Anderson:It will replace the current ESV resource Is that a requirement of the publisher? Or a FL decision? If the latter, can it be reconsidered? Obviously, I don't know all the implications. Thanks for answering, Donnie
I can't go into all the details but essentially its the former.
Will the High Definition versions from Faithlife also have the text update to this level?
In the religious world of publisher-enforced translation, nothing like Libby and her CDs. Yawn.
Kyle G. Anderson: Donnie Hale: Kyle G. Anderson:It will replace the current ESV resource Is that a requirement of the publisher? Or a FL decision? If the latter, can it be reconsidered? Obviously, I don't know all the implications. Thanks for answering, Donnie I can't go into all the details but essentially its the former.
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Unfortunately, previously printed bibles and memorized verses do not automatically update to new "permanent" revisions so having textual variants available for use in Faithlife apps and applications would be appreciated by many.
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Denise:In the religious world of publisher-enforced translation, nothing like Libby and her CDs. Yawn.
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Chicken Little, here.
I'm not a fan of the changes they made to Gen 3:16 and 4:7 but all of the other changes seem to be just tweaks to get things closer to the original languages. Glad I just bought a print copy of the 2011 text. I was hoping Logos would provide the permanent edition as a separate text but alas, no. Here are more perspectives on the change for those interested.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jesuscreed/2016/09/12/the-new-stealth-translation-esv/
https://myonlycomfort.com/2016/09/08/genesis-316/
https://claudemariottini.com/2016/09/12/the-permanent-text-of-the-esv/
In light of the textual revisions, will a new edition of the ESV Study Bible be released? If so, will our Logos edition of the study Bible be updated to reflect the changes?
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Daniel Yoder: In light of the textual revisions, will a new edition of the ESV Study Bible be released? If so, will our Logos edition of the study Bible be updated to reflect the changes?
That is a reasonable expectation.
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So the new translation leads the reader to believe that God "tempts" women to sin via the curse. Unlikely.
God tempts no one to sin. James 1:13.
Jennifer Jolene: So the new translation leads the reader to believe that God "tempts" women to sin via the curse. Unlikely. God tempts no one to sin. James 1:13.
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Jennifer ... ChristianDiscourse.com is the forum's order to go sit in the corner.
But your forum image is quite apropo. I was impressed.
I suspect the ESV committee's antics with the silly 'perminent' and the comparison to the venerated KJV is a bit transparent. I know for sure at our church, the translation will be tainted due to forcing the wording so obviously. Much like the JW's.
Bruce Dunning: Daniel Yoder: In light of the textual revisions, will a new edition of the ESV Study Bible be released? If so, will our Logos edition of the study Bible be updated to reflect the changes? That is a reasonable expectation.
Thanks for the reply, Bruce.
From @KateShellnut: The popular ESV Bible text will be updated and changing after all:
http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2016/september/crossway-reverses-decision-esv-bible-text-permanent-mistake.html
James McAdams: From @KateShellnut: The popular ESV Bible text will be updated and changing after all: http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2016/september/crossway-reverses-decision-esv-bible-text-permanent-mistake.html
That's quite the reversal.
That's interesting. I'm actually kind of glad that they're willing to keep changing along with the language--so they can keep finding a sweet spot between dynamic and formal equivalence (perhaps. I know that's in the eye of the beholder).
However, I'm not sure the permanent text "issue" was the controversial one.
Mr Gabriel, I agree with your last statement.
Though I thought their earlier reasoning was foolish, as well as their latest. They ref'd the KJV, even though the ESV would not be needed absent a new set of manuscripts a la Westcott. Now, they think they may wish to modernize the english, again presuming the monestaries have revealed the final desert manuscripts. Even the supporting denominations don't propose the present manuscripts are correct, and hope for earlier.