What's Included in Logos 7

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David Wanat | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 25 2016 8:27 AM

OK, how long before you update links to show what is new to us in each set? I have Verbum Foundations 6. There's a dynamic price for everything, including Starter ($90). I'd like to know what I'm getting for the price and what I need to buy to "catch up" to where I am now with Verbum 7

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Stephen Terlizzi | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 25 2016 8:44 AM

David Wanat:

OK, how long before you update links to show what is new to us in each set? I have Verbum Foundations 6. There's a dynamic price for everything, including Starter ($90). I'd like to know what I'm getting for the price and what I need to buy to "catch up" to where I am now with Verbum 7

Did you check the Catholic bundles on the main Logos website as opposed to the Verbum site? Click here - https://www.logos.com/compare/verbum.

This should help you with your questions.

Agape,

Steve

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Jonathan Pitts | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 25 2016 8:44 AM

David Wanat:

OK, how long before you update links to show what is new to us in each set? I have Verbum Foundations 6. There's a dynamic price for everything, including Starter ($90). I'd like to know what I'm getting for the price and what I need to buy to "catch up" to where I am now with Verbum 7

Seems to be working for me.

https://www.logos.com/product/81202/verbum-starter 

Scroll down to "Library Resources You'll Get" and select "New to you" from the dropdown.

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David Wanat | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 25 2016 10:23 AM

Works now. Not sure what the problem was before. I decided to go with Verbum Starter and see where to go from there.

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 26 2016 7:56 AM

Phil Gons (Faithlife):

If you've been a Logos Now member and are looking for just what's new in this release, here's that list:

New

  1. Sermon Editor: a new tool for building your sermon manuscript, outline, handout, and slides right in Logos.
  2. Courses: a guided learning platform for working through Mobile Ed courses and other structured learning content
  3. Bible Browser (subscription only): a faceted browsing tool for accessing our rich data on the Bible by simply using your mouse instead of learning complicated search syntax
  4. Figurative Language of New Testament: a fresh analysis of the NT's figurative language
  5. Quickstart Layouts: starting points that integrate content and tools around a task or theme
  6. Longacre Genre Analysis: an application of Longacre's genre schema to the Bible
  7. Sentence Types of New Testament: an analysis of all sentences in the NT into declarative, interrogative, and exclamatory
  8. Speech Acts of New Testament: similar to the above, but using speech acts
  9. Hebrew Grammatical Constructions: a database that identifies many key constructions in Hebrew
  10. Exploring Bible Manuscript: an educational interactive guide through biblical manuscripts
  11. An Empty Tomb: a look inside a first-century tomb that sheds light on the setting for Jesus' burial
  12. Text Comparison Interlinear New Testament dataset: the data that backs the new Text Comparison interlinear view

Improved

  1. Text Comparison​​ tool: infinite scroll and a new interlinear view that organizes translations against the underlying Greek or Hebrew text
  2. Media tool: a way to find and create sharable media (combines Visual Copy and Media Browser)
  3. Biblical Event Navigator: new UI
  4. Miracles of the Bible: added bubble visualizations

In addition, here are a few additional content items I forgot to include:

Interlinears

  1. Lexham Dead Sea Scrolls Hebrew-English Interlinear Bible
  2. Lexham Latin-English Interlinear Vulgate Bible
  3. The Latin-Greek Reverse Interlinear Vulgate Deuterocanonical Old Testament
  4. The Latin-Greek Reverse Interlinear Vulgate New Testament
  5. The Latin-Greek Reverse Interlinear Vulgate: Deuterocanonical Old Testament, Variant Alignments
  6. The Latin-Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Vulgate Old Testament
  7. The English-Greek Reverse Interlinear Deuterocanonical Old Testament Revised Standard Version, Catholic Edition

Media Collections

  1. Faithlife Animations (subscription only)
  2. deSilva Teaching Materials, vol. 2 (subscription only)
  3. Mars Hill Media Collection (subscription only)
  4. Lexham Bible Dictionary Videos (subscription only)

Thank you Phil.  Would it be possible to make a permanent/sticky thread in the Logos 7 Forums with something like this?  There is one in the Logos Now Forums which is always at the top and it is easy to go somewhere to find all the new features and how to use them

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 26 2016 8:15 AM

Please disregard my above post... I found the thread.  I tried to modify it but the forums kept giving me an error

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JoshInRI | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 27 2016 6:00 AM

I wonder if the answer to the Original Post Title is this one....

At last we can all answer how many angels really DO dance on the head of a pin and what original language variant are they speaking.

Sounds like a future interactive in the making, right?

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 27 2016 6:19 AM

My fingers are still crossed for an eschatology interactive

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Andrew Zoll | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 28 2016 3:31 PM

Mattillo:

My fingers are still crossed for an eschatology interactive

I second that. At the very least, it would be nice to get rid of this stylistically outdated powerpoint from my computer!

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Andrew Zoll | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 28 2016 3:31 PM

Mattillo:

My fingers are still crossed for an eschatology interactive

I second that. At the very least, it would be nice to get rid of this stylistically outdated powerpoint from my computer!

1882.Five Millennial Views.pptx

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Brent Hoefling | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 16 2017 6:37 AM

Andrew Zoll:

I second that. At the very least, it would be nice to get rid of this stylistically outdated powerpoint from my computer!

1882.Five Millennial Views.pptx

Not sure that an eschatological interactive would really work.  There is far too many "interpretation" variations, and most folks that I have discussed this topic tend to have a combination of varying views.

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The sermon tool is only evaluated if you buy a program apart, this really is very bad, buy a presentation program without needing only to use an integrated text editor, really absurd, the sentence creation tool is now no longer available , Only if I pay well is a delay since version 6 was already included, the Logos Bible is a great tool, but it made me sad, since I have little financial resources, I feel excluded, to use this powerful tool ...

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 25 2017 8:57 AM

Hi Antonio - and welcome to the forums

I don't follow all your points but let me comment on some of them

Antonio Gregorio Portela Silva:
The sermon tool is only evaluated if you buy a program apart,

Not quite sure what you mean here - the sermon document / editor feature is included with the Logos 7 Full Feature Set or a Logos Now subscription. So it is an additional cost but is then a fully integrated part of the Logos environment.

Antonio Gregorio Portela Silva:
the sentence creation tool is now no longer available

What tool are you referring to here?

Antonio Gregorio Portela Silva:
Only if I pay well is a delay since version 6 was already included

I don't understand this - could you please clarify / expand?

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Hello! Thank you for contacting me, I have been a user since the time of libronix 2, I still have with me the physical media and their respective licenses. I know that the sermon feature was only evaluated in logos 7, but I stayed out of this resource, because I updated to version 7 and the logos informed me that I was preseeding the Proclaim program to use the sermon editor, I have to pay for a monthly fee To use the editor, since it is on the subscription basis. For me it became unfeasible, I will get an extra program based on monthly fees, to use a refusal that is already in the core of the program? Just not active Because if it was not part of the core, there would be a guide with the name Sermon!

The resource I said is not evaluated in the document guide where the syntactic analysis, (sentence diagram) with arrows and visual effects, which in logos 6 I used normally, and now it is saying that I have to acquire the part.

When your last question that you did not understand, I am embarrassed to say here publicly, I have no financial resources to buy, I know that this program is worth every penny, every drop of sweat of its programmers, but I wanted at least what I already Used in Logos 6.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 25 2017 10:39 AM

Antonio Gregorio Portela Silva:
I know that the sermon feature was only evaluated in logos 7

Yes the Sermon Editor was only introduced in Logos 7

Antonio Gregorio Portela Silva:
to use the sermon editor, I have to pay for a monthly fee To use the editor, since it is on the subscription basis. For me it became unfeasible, I will get an extra program based on monthly fees, to use a refusal that is already in the core of the program?

Yes - as per my post above you either need to buy the Full Feature Set or subscribe to Logos Now to get access to the Sermon Editor

Antonio Gregorio Portela Silva:
Because if it was not part of the core, there would be a guide with the name Sermon

It isn't actually implemented as a Guide but as a new Document type

Antonio Gregorio Portela Silva:
The resource I said is not evaluated in the document guide where the syntactic analysis, (sentence diagram) with arrows and visual effects, which in logos 6 I used normally, and now it is saying that I have to acquire the part.

I think you are referring to the Sentence Diagram Document - is that correct?

If you had access to this in Logos 6 you should continue to have access to it if you move to Logos 7

Antonio Gregorio Portela Silva:
When your last question that you did not understand, I am embarrassed to say here publicly, I have no financial resources to buy, I know that this program is worth every penny, every drop of sweat of its programmers, but I wanted at least what I already Used in Logos 6.

Understood - and pleased don't be embarrassed by that

You should be able to upgrade to the free version of Logos 7 - available at https://www.logos.com/product/136022/basic 

And anything that used to work for you in Logos 6 should continue to work for you there.

It won't include the Sermon Editor or a lot of the features in chargeable versions of Logos 7 but will provide the latest engine, some new features and the latest set of fixes.

If you have problems with that please create a new thread in the forum and we'll work with you to get it sorted.

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Thank you, your help was precious, I will uninstall and install again by following your link 

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Matthew Nowak | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 1 2018 5:10 PM

How do I change my bibles on text comparison? 

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Scott E. Mahle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jan 1 2018 6:44 PM

Matthew Nowak:

How do I change my bibles on text comparison? 

Look HERE.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 2 2018 2:13 AM

Matthew Nowak:

How do I change my bibles on text comparison? 

Hi Matthew

Welcome to the New Year and welcome to the forum - you will find plenty of advice here so don't hesitate to ask.

It is better though ask a new question as a New Post...

making sure that you give the new post a meaningful title. That way help will be focused on your question and others can search for it if they have a similar problem.

Having said that I only partially understand how to actually change the bibles in Text Comparison and don't find the help file particularly useful.

You could try this as an example...

Type the three resources (or similar) into the top bar. Note NO spaces.

Click on the line '9 resources with...

This populates the top box with all the possible selections, some you may need to hover over with the cursor to see what they are.

Untick the ones that you don't want to show in the comparison window.

Then click 'Save'.

At this point you may need to close and open the window again.

Now scroll down the panel to...

... where is says either 'Saved' or 'Recent' and double click on one of the lines.

Then simply click somewhere outside the box.

This provides me with the list that I actually want about 30% of the time. I guess the failures are due to me missing a step in the rather convoluted and arcane system but I usually get there with only a modicum of wasted time.

Do let us know how you get on...

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 2 2018 2:26 AM

Hi Matthew

The "Bible List" section at https://wiki.logos.com/Text_Comparison is also helpful

Graham

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