Do I own the Features or Not?

I'm and Now Member who just purchases a Logos 7 base package. I know that the features are included in the Now Membership, but the verbiage is making me question this. Did I purchase a library only or a library w/ features (e.g. datasets, interactives, etc.)

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JT (alabama24)

My understanding is "no." An additional purchase would be required to "own" them.

Yasmin Stephen

Since you already have access to the features/datasets etc with Logos Now, I would've thought that you bought a library only.

John Kight

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840378#Comment_840378

Yeah, I'm confused because it states that it's "included" in base package, but then its asterisked that its "included" with the Now Membership.

Eli Evans (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840378#Comment_840378

... but you do retain access to them as long as your Logos Now membership remains active.

John Kight

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840386#Comment_840386

... but you do retain access to them as long as your Logos Now membership remains active.

If I dont own them, then why does it state they are included int he "base package" I purchased? That just seems confusing.

Eli Evans (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840388#Comment_840388

Sorry, forgot to type: The wording is definitely confusing, and I've alerted the web store team about that.

John Kight

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840386#Comment_840386

If the base package I purchased doesnt include the Feature Set, why does it state that it is "included in THIS base package"?

Benjamin Varghese

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840390#Comment_840390

I read that "Logos 7 full feature set is available Bronze and above" and bought Silver. Then realized it did not give ownership to the feature set which was waht I originally wanted. This was definitley not the experience I was looking for. Now I additionally paid for the full feature set. Logos gains!

John Kight

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840398#Comment_840398

I read that "Logos 7 full feature set is available Bronze and above" and bought Silver. Then realized it did not give ownership to the feature set which was waht I originally wanted. This was definitley not the exepreinece I was looking for.

Same here, but with Diamond. Now I have to call and return the purchase to make a separate purchase to add the feature set... [*-)]

John Kight

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840398#Comment_840398

I read that "Logos 7 full feature set is available Bronze and above" and bought Silver. Then realized it did not give ownership to the feature set which was waht I originally wanted. This was definitley not the exepreinece I was looking for.

Same here, but with Diamond. Now I have to call and return the purchase to make a separate purchase to add the feature set... [*-)]

Graham Owen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840403#Comment_840403

OK so now I'm confused.

My understanding is that as a Logos Now user I have full access to all features, so I'm confused as to why I would want to but them?

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840407#Comment_840407

OK so now I'm confused.

My understanding is that as a Logos Now user I have full access to all features, so I'm confused as to why I would want to but them?

You would only buy, if you plan to drop the subscription. No subscription no features. Buy the features and you have them for life.

Benjamin Varghese

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840407#Comment_840407

I wanted to buy, not have as part of Logos Now.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840412#Comment_840412

See Glenn's post here for a description of how Libraries and Feature Sets relate: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/129215/840409.aspx#840409

Tim Farley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840403#Comment_840403

This is very confusing. At the bottom of each product page there is a heading stating "Feature Set Resources You'll Get". I click on "new to you" and there is a list of all of the new L7 features. If they are not included in the base packages, why are they listed as if they are?

Benjamin Varghese

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840412#Comment_840412

I do not understand why the statement "Include full feature set" is shown against the package when it does not actually include as part of package but only as part of Logos Now or Full Purchase

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840416#Comment_840416

This is very confusing. At the bottom of each product page there is a heading stating "Feature Set Resources You'll Get". I click on "new to you" and there is a list of all of the new L7 features. If they are not included in the base packages, why are they listed as if they are?

See this thread for clarification. https://community.logos.com/forums/p/129215/840409.aspx#840409

Phil Gons (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840407#Comment_840407

My understanding is that as a Logos Now user I have full access to all features . . .

That's correct.

so I'm confused as to why I would want to buy them?

Buying a feature set won't get you anything you don't have access to via Logos Now. But if you end up deciding you don't want Logos Now, owning the feature set would ensure that you don't lose access to those features. Those who are passionate about ownership or unsure how long they'll be Now members will probably consider purchasing a feature set.

Phil Gons (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840416#Comment_840416

If they are not included in the base packages, why are they listed as if they are?

A base package is the pairing of a library and a feature set. The only difference between Logos 6 and Logos 7 is that the two parts are now separable. So a base package does include the features. You can buy a library without a feature set or feature set without a library.

Tim Farley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840431#Comment_840431

Thanks for the responses. I understand what is going on now. The explanation at https://community.logos.com/forums/p/129215/840409.aspx#840409 was very helpful.

Benjamin Varghese

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840431#Comment_840431

If I already own Logos Now, and then filter the Package page for ''New To You", why does the page show all the feature set when it is not included in the purchase?

Graham Owen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840424#Comment_840424

so I'm confused as to why I would want to buy them?

Buying a feature set won't get you anything you don't have access to via Logos Now. But if you end up deciding you don't want Logos Now, owning the feature set would ensure that you don't lose access to those features. Those who are passionate about ownership or unsure how long they'll be Now members will probably consider purchasing a feature set.

Thanks Bradley

I was getting a bit confused there, no plans to drop Logos Now so no need to buy the features. Crystal clear.

Matt Hamrick

Seems to me the product page says add to cart and buy now and you get the library and full feature ownership even if you are a member which is how it should be.

Ruben Sandoval

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840431#Comment_840431

This does make some sense.

Quick few followup questions:

1) What would the "normal" price be for the features? I am a Logos Now user and figure I'll continue to be one, but I'm considering owning (just in case the price is substantially more long term/run).

2) As a Logos Now subscriber, are there any features I do not have permission to use, as opposed to feature owners? Looking at the features that are "new to me" there seem to be quite a few I do not "have" as a Logos Now subscriber.

Thanks!

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840530#Comment_840530

1) What would the "normal" price be for the features? I am a Logos Now user and figure I'll continue to be one, but I'm considering owning (just in case the price is substantially more long term/run).

It all depends on your dynamic pricing. You can get a current price from https://www.logos.com/product/120029/logos-7-full-feature-set

2) As a Logos Now subscriber, are there any features I do not have permission to use, as opposed to feature owners? Looking at the features that are "new to me" there seem to be quite a few I do not "have" as a Logos Now subscriber.

You have everything that feature owners have except the LT271 course isn't released yet, so no-one has that. What do you think you are missing?

Ruben Sandoval

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840540#Comment_840540

To question 2:

Beside the dataset/resources for the features section (Under all the resources) there are little green dots/emblems (indicating I own) by some of these datasets/resources. However, there are several that do not have this green dot/emblem. My guess is that because I am a Logos Now subscriber that I do not "own" the dataset/resource(s) in question...so I think I answered my own question with your help (since Logos Now subscribers do have access to the datasets/resources they do not "own" in the lists provided on the site).

Hope that made sense.

Thanks!

in HIM

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/840723#Comment_840723

That's correct, Reuben.