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Matt Hamrick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 6:39 AM

The NIDNT and NIDOT comes in a bundle together but it is not on sale. That makes no sense to me.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 6:48 AM

Matt Hamrick:

The NIDNT and NIDOT comes in a bundle together but it is not on sale. That makes no sense to me.

Not quite right...the old versions are bundled, but the new NIDNT is not.

DAL

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Daniel Yoder | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 7:03 AM

Thanks for calling these sales to our attention.  Mounce's dictionary is an especially good deal.  

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Everett Headley | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 7:16 AM

But no dynamic pricing right?  Remember th NiVAC sale months ago...

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Matt Hamrick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 7:39 AM

DAL:

Matt Hamrick:

The NIDNT and NIDOT comes in a bundle together but it is not on sale. That makes no sense to me.

Not quite right...the old versions are bundled, but the new NIDNT is not.

DAL

Thank you very much. Now that makes perfect sense to me.

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mike | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 8:27 AM

The Zodervan Atlas on Logos is 2010 version and only has 304 pages... The one on Amazon is the latest one, from 2014 with 773 pages.

just fyi

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 8:39 AM

Allen Browne:

Wow, thanks!

While I'm still sitting on the fence for NIDNTTE and ZEB - both are probably good in themselves, and it's rare to see Zondervan titles 60% off but on the other hand, what additional benefit would they bring to a large library well-stocked with lexicons, dictionaries and encyclopedias ...  #firstworldproblems  ... - I hit quick-buy on the ZAB Atlas resource. This looks like a steal, especially when looking for content and comments over at a large retailer.

 

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 8:43 AM

mike:

The Zodervan Atlas on Logos is 2010 version and only has 304 pages... The one on Amazon is the latest one, from 2014 with 773 pages.

just fyi

I believe the Amazon info to be wrong.  The Kindle "Look Inside" view of the book says copyright 2010 and shows it to be around 300 pages, and the only info on Zondervan's website also says 2010 and 304 pages:

http://www.zondervan.com/zondervan-atlas-of-the-bible

I just bought the Atlas, and I believe it is the best atlas resource I have.  The pictures and maps are very large.

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Alain Maashe | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 8:43 AM

mike:

The Zodervan Atlas on Logos is 2010 version and only has 304 pages... The one on Amazon is the latest one, from 2014 with 773 pages.

just fyi

I believe that the Kindle info posted by Amazon is misleading and has the wrong page count and publication date. The kindle and the print editions are both the revised edition with the exact same cover but with different page numbers and publication dates in the info section. Zondervan Academic only lists a revised edition from 2010 with 304 pages.

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Rokas | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 10:01 AM

Todd Phillips:

I just bought the Atlas, and I believe it is the best atlas resource I have.  The pictures and maps are very large.

Yes, the file is over 400 MB.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 10:24 AM

NB.Mick:
While I'm still sitting on the fence for NIDNTTE and ZEB - both are probably good in themselves, and it's rare to see Zondervan titles 60% off but on the other hand, what additional benefit would they bring to a large library well-stocked with lexicons, dictionaries and encyclopedias ...  #firstworldproblems  ... - I hit quick-buy on the ZAB Atlas resource. This looks like a steal, especially when looking for content and comments over at a large retailer.

I also just bought the ZEB. It is similar to the ISBE, but here is my summary of differences:

  • Includes tagged Greek and Hebrew GK numbers (this is very nice)
  • More internal cross-linking than ISBE
  • Color pictures and maps. 
    • Maps are good and helpful.  They are plenty large enough to illustrate the articles, however they aren't as good as the maps in the Zondervan Atlas of the Bible.
    • Photographs tend to be small (range from 2 to 4 inches on the screen) and are often misaligned with the associated article.  This misalignment is probably a result of the print layout, but I saw several instances where the picture for an article was in the middle of the an adjoining entry (See first screenshot below).  So you might not see it if you didn't scroll up or down a bit.
  • Articles are somewhat shorter than the ISBE.  (Sometimes much shorter: In the ZEB, Baptism is 7 pages.  In the ISBE, Baptism is 16 pages.  But that's an outlier.)
  • I feel that the ISBE articles are written more scholarly than the ZEB.  The ZEB authors tend to be more discursive, throw in more personal commentary, and write to a different (younger?) audience, but that varies with the article.

Trying to decide if I want to keep it.  I like the images and tagging/linking, but the writing does not stand out.

Here are some example ZEB/ISBE comparison screenshots --

Picture of Caesarea Philippi is in the wrong article. Nice cross-linking though.  ZEB Article is much shorter then ISBE:

I really did not care for this ZEB Calendar article.  Much too introductory:

Notice how ZEB skips discussion of the original language in this article:

Nice map, Different approach to the outline here.  I think I like this ZEB article better than the ISBE one here.  ZEB is more straightforward and readable, but ISBE still longer:

Small picture. ZEB article seems to go straight into commentary mode:

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 10:24 AM

NB.Mick:
I'm still sitting on the fence for NIDNTTE and ZEB

I got ZEB, but found it not too hot, already having ISBE, AYBD etc.  Occasionally an article is good, or clearly written, but not really helpful if you have the other ones.  I think I got it more for the image files . . . that said, it is better than the old Zondervan Pictorial.

NIDNTTE I don't have.  I really like Moises Silva and his linguistics knowledge, and would think it be good based on that. 

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 10:25 AM

Dang, Todd, go all out! Stick out tongue

I like Apples.  Especially Honeycrisp.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 10:38 AM

After almost 2 years, anybody knows which NIDNTTE is better? Silva's new version or Brown's older version. I own neither but after reading the forums it seems that Silva's new version has not had a good reception, hence, the low sale price today.

Oh BTW, how long is the sale?

DAL

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 10:53 AM

Friedrich:

Dang, Todd, go all out! Stick out tongue

I couldn't find much in the way of detailed online reviews for the ZEB, so I figured I'd write down my thoughts while I had it.

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Justin Gatlin | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 11:06 AM

DAL:

After almost 2 years, anybody knows which NIDNTTE is better? Silva's new version or Brown's older version. I own neither but after reading the forums it seems that Silva's new version has not had a good reception, hence, the low sale price today.

Oh BTW, how long is the sale?

DAL

DTS reviews it favorably, although I know their theology is far from yours, the review is quite detailed.

http://www.dts.edu/reviews/new-international-dictionary-of-new-testament-theology-and-exegesis-moiss-silva 

This review compares the two editions at length, favoring the new:

http://pastors.com/book-review-new-international-dictionary-new-testament-theology-exegesis-second-edition-moises-silva-revision-editor/ 

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 1:20 PM

Anyone think the whole set of NIVAC will be on sale? Really want to get the whole set, and not just the NT. I've heard nothing but good things about this commentary series. 

Shalom, in Christ, Keith. Check out my music www.soundcloud.com/kpang808

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 1:46 PM

Keith Pang:

Anyone think the whole set of NIVAC will be on sale? Really want to get the whole set, and not just the NT. I've heard nothing but good things about this commentary series. 

 If you get the New Testament set right now and then the Old Testament set when it goes on sale it will be better for you to resell them as separate sets than just one whole set if you decide to keep just one in the future.  Right now the current set on sale is the lowest after the $7.99 per volume a few months ago.

 I have the NIVAC NT, NIDNTTE, NIDOTTE and the Atlas in my cart and I'm feeling very tempted to hit the "place order" button. I also feel like shooting for, maybe, a couple more upgrades, but I'm not so sure. I don't want to run my bill to high even though is 0 interest for a year.

DAL

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 3 2016 1:52 PM

DAL:

 If you get the New Testament set right now and then the Old Testament set when it goes on sale it will be better for you to resell them as separate sets than just one whole set if you decide to keep just one in the future.  Right now the current set on sale is the lowest after the $7.99 per volume a few months ago.

 I have the NIVAC NT, NIDNTTE, NIDOTTE and the Atlas in my cart and I'm feeling very tempted to hit the "place order" button. I also feel like shooting for, maybe, a couple more upgrades, but I'm not so sure. I don't want to run my bill to high even though is 0 interest for a year.

DAL

You do have a good point there DAL. It just seems to me that Zondervan resources hardly go on sale, well at least it seems that way. So I guess I would have to bank on the OT set going on sale eventually. 

I have NIDNTTE, NIDOTTE, ZEB, Mounce Dictionary and Zondervan Atlas they are excellent resources! 

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