Help: Finding all <Place> entities in John

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Donnie Hale | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 3 2016 10:52 AM

Sean Boisen:
Adding a way to search all values for a data type is an issue for Bradley to address: I'll mention it to him.

Thanks, Sean.

-Donnie

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Philana R. Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 17 2016 9:45 AM

Schumitinu:

I tried a Clause search in John for place:ANY. It gave me 3557 hits!!! How can that be? A lot of hits are no places at all. Shouldn't it find all Biblical Entities that are tagged as places? I thought that would be exactly what we are looking for.

Clause Search for ANY and NONE has been fixed in 7.2 Beta 2, and will be to stable users once 7.2 ships at the end of the current beta cycle.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 29 2016 9:36 AM

Logos 7.2 Beta 3 Clause Search in John for:

place:ANY

Keep Smiling Smile

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John Brumett | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 31 2016 6:14 AM

This is still not available in english bibles and the clause search does not narrow it down so you can list individual cities as in the concordance tool.  

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 31 2016 7:55 AM

I can't test it because I don't run betas, but can Analysis allow the user to sort by the places (hits)?

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John Brumett | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 31 2016 8:56 AM

Francis:
can Analysis allow the user to sort by the places (hits)?

It takes forever to run the Analysis view in clause search.

The results in analysis view mixes up People, places and things because it is looking at the whole clause not just places.  I tried Adverbial, Subject and Object.

The Analysis View only gives results in the Sbl Greek or Hebrew.

I still need the ability to search and create a visual filter for all cities or places in the English Bible (NKJV).  It would be nice to limit this to proper names.     

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Fr Devin Roza | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 1 2016 7:45 AM

John Brumett:

I still need the ability to search and create a visual filter for all cities or places in the English Bible (NKJV).  

This will work if you really need this before Faithlife implements an easier solution: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/130857/851289.aspx#851289

That being said, I really hope that we get a way to search for ANY, or... even better, to search based on traits, or better still, a Bible-Sense-Lexicon like tree structure based on traits. i.e. with the Bible Sense Lexicon we can search for a specific branch of the tree structure, or that branch and anything below it.

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Philana R. Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 14 2016 11:05 AM

Schumitinu:

I tried a Clause search in John for place:ANY. It gave me 3557 hits!!! How can that be? A lot of hits are no places at all. Shouldn't it find all Biblical Entities that are tagged as places? I thought that would be exactly what we are looking for.

Then I tried
place:Any Region OR place:Any City or Town OR place:Any Place OR place:Any village
which gave me exactly one hit. Didn't work neither. 

Is this all expected behavior?

This is now fixed in 7.2

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Schumitinu | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 15 2016 8:49 AM

Philana R. Crouch:

Schumitinu:

I tried a Clause search in John for place:ANY. It gave me 3557 hits!!! How can that be? A lot of hits are no places at all. Shouldn't it find all Biblical Entities that are tagged as places? I thought that would be exactly what we are looking for.

Then I tried
place:Any Region OR place:Any City or Town OR place:Any Place OR place:Any village
which gave me exactly one hit. Didn't work neither. 

Is this all expected behavior?

This is now fixed in 7.2

Thank you FL! Works like charm...

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John Brumett | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 26 2016 6:31 PM

Philana R. Crouch:
This is now fixed in 7.2

Philana

Do you know if we will have the ability to search for all places including proper Nouns of Cities such as Corinth, Ephesus, ect  in our English Bibles? Do you know if this is in the works?   

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Bob Bolender | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 27 2017 5:04 AM

Was this ever answered?  I'm trying something similar.  How do I find all the <Place> names in the Pastoral Epistles?

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 27 2017 6:34 AM

The Bible Explorer will list all the places mentioned in a passage range. Clicking on an individual place name will open the corresponding Factbook page. In the "Referred as" section, you can find all the passages where it is mentioned. 

This does not include unspecified places such as "a certain town". To find these, you have to use the <Place ...> searches (Any City, Any Place, etc., if you just type Place, Logos will drop down a list from which you can pick).

Does this answer your question?

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John Brumett | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 27 2017 7:39 AM

Still missing this ability in a simple search.  Will this ability be available in the future?   

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 27 2017 9:54 AM

You can use the Concordance Tool to look for Biblical Entities in just the Pastoral Epistles.

Then select Places on the left to filter to just Places. Note these are all mentions, not just names.

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Bob Bolender | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 27 2017 12:40 PM

This has been my workaround until they come up with some kind of <Place *> Bible search.

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PJ | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 8 2017 3:11 AM

Fast Useful Workaround

1. Download and run this AutoHotKey Script 1134.KeyMapTricks.zip

2. Copy Biblical Places or Biblical People or Biblical Things from Explorer

3. Type <places or <people or <things in a Search Panel depending on what you copied

4. See how the script create a formatted query

5. Run the Search and enjoy the Results

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Tom Garcia | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 3 2019 3:58 PM

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