Advice on Expositor's Bible Commentary

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ELA | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Mar 9 2010 6:44 AM

I see that it is about the last chance to grab the pre-pub price of the EBC - What distinguishes this commentary from other commentaries like the Tyndale commentary or the larger commentaries like NICOT/NICNT?

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Paul Golder | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 9 2010 7:00 AM

See this thread Yes

"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 9 2010 7:01 AM

Compared to Tyndale:

More spotty quality (overall, Tyndale is better), but some outstanding and oft-quoted volumes, such as Carson's Matthew.  I have heard that the apocalyptic commentaries take a different outlook than Tyndale (which tends to be more amill).  I have not used Daniel or Revelation in the EBC lately, so I cannot verify that.


Compared to NICOT/NT

ummm, much cheaper. Wink, not as technical (overall) and not as quality.  But you are paying a 1/10 of the price, too.

I like Apples.  Especially Honeycrisp.

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ELA | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 9 2010 2:39 PM

Thank you - I hadn't seen the other thread. I'll read that through

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 10 2010 10:06 PM

I pretty much agree with Dan.  Tyndale is better, and one of the best buys available for Logos. 

However, EBC is not as bad as some seem to think.  It has some articles by some of the best biblical scholars in the world.  Articles by Donald Guthrie, Goron Fee, Bruce Metzger, F. F. Bruce for example. 

The commentaries in the EBC come from a broad range of evangelical theology - all evangelical, true, but you have reformed, Wesleyan, Presbyterian, Methodist, etc.

Carson on Matthew is the jewel of the set, but there are other good ones, too.  Commentaries by E. F. Harrison, Leon Morris, and Dennis Kenlaw have to be pretty good.

EBC is definately worth having at the pre-pub price.

 

"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

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Jim VanSchoonhoven | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 10 2010 11:58 PM

Most sites that give ratings concerning the EBC rate the commentary very high, the threads on this site are the exception to that rule.

Both Tyndale and the EBC are great commentaries and the two are about as good as it gets in the medium length, whole bible commentaries that are conservative, and both are affordable at the Logos price.

Both have weaknesses and strong points and both can be termed spotty, whatever that term means!  Spotty can be a catch all for so many things, it is almost a useless term to me.

I have both sets, although only the Tyndale is in Logos, I plan on fixing that very soon!

I would not want to be without either set, they are both that good and supplement each other, and at the current prices, you would be very hard pressed to find anything that comes near  them that was written in the last 50 years! 

For most believers these sets are both great first stops when they start to research a book or passage!

For their niche, asking me which one I like best would be like asking me if I want to keep my left hand or my right hand, the answer will always be, I like both hands, they are a fine set!

In Christ,

Jim

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Daniel Bender | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 11 2010 6:01 AM

JimVanSchoonhoven:
Most sites that give ratings concerning the EBC rate the commentary very high, the threads on this site are the exception to that rule.
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JimVanSchoonhoven:
For their niche, asking me which one I like best would be like asking me if I want to keep my left hand or my right hand, the answer will always be, I like both hands, they are a fine set!

I agree with what you have to say Jim. Thanks for your post. I own both the EBC and TOTC/TNTC sets and for what it offers EBC is a very good set to have if you want a commentary on the entire Bible. What sold me on the value of owning EBC were the articles in volume one. Here is a partial list. . .

  • The Authority and Inspiration of the Bible Carl F. H. Henry, Th.D., Ph.D., Litt.D.
  • The Transmission and Translation of the Bible F.F. Bruce, D.D., F.B.A.
  • The Interpretation of the Bible Geoffrey W. Bromiley, Ph.D., D.Litt., D.D.
  • The Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha Bruce M. Metzger, D.D., Ph.D., L.H.D., D.Theol.
  • Between the Testaments Harold W. Hoehner, Th.D., Ph.D.
  • Textual Criticism of the Old Testament Bruce K. Waltke, Th.D., Ph.D.
  • Old Testament History J.A. Motyer, M.A.
  • The Theology of the Old Testament Walter C. Kaiser Jr., Ph.D.
  • Archaeology and the Old Testament Donald J. Wiseman, D.Litt, F.B.A.
  • The Dead Sea Scrolls William Sanford LaSor, Ph.D., Th.D.
  • Textual Criticism of the New Testament Gordon D. Fee, Ph.D.
  • The Historical and Literary Criticism of the New Testament Donald Guthrie, Ph.D.
  • Jesus in the Gospels I. Howard Marshall, Ph.D.
  • The Old Testament in the New Testament Roger Nicole, Th.D., Ph.D.
  • Archaeology and the New Testament Edwin Yamauchi, Ph.D.

On the actual commentaries in EBC, many point to Carson's commentary on Matthew as one reason to purchase the entire set. I would add Longenecker on Acts (I like his outline); Morris on Hebrews; and maybe a couple of others. IMO the better OT commentaries in EBC are found in Vols 5-7--VanGemeren (Psalms); Feinberg (Jeremiah); Alexander (Ezekiel); and Daniel and the Minor Prophets (vol 7). There is value in owning this set and if you can get it with the discount I would definitely do so. 

 

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Mike T | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 11 2010 6:32 AM

Does anyone know if the content of the Carson commentary on Matthew is the same in the 12-volume set as in the separate two-volume Matthew set?

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SteveF | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 11 2010 10:45 AM

Michael:
Does anyone know if the content of the Carson commentary on Matthew is the same in the 12-volume set as in the separate two-volume Matthew set?

At the end of each 'article" (pericope) etc there is a section titles "Notes." These do NOT appear in the 2 volume set.

Most of the main Bible-related chapter-verse commentary text is identical, with some minor paraphrasing--it is very very close to the "big" set.

Regards, SteveF

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Jim VanSchoonhoven | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 11 2010 11:15 AM

Michael, the simple answer is;  the two are not the same, and if you thought you be getting the same Matt. Commentary in both sets you would be wrong  and disappointed.

In Christ,

Jim

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Mike T | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 11 2010 6:08 PM

JimVanSchoonhoven:

Michael, the simple answer is;  the two are not the same, and if you thought you be getting the same Matt. Commentary in both sets you would be wrong  and disappointed.

In Christ,

Jim

I think I was not clear about what I was comparing...  For the EBC there are 1) a condensed, 2-volume set, 2) the expanded 12-volume set, and 3) many of the books of the bible are available separately, such as Carson's commentary on Matthew, which is a 2-volume set. 

But I think I just answered my own question by adding the pages of the Matthew, Mark and Luke individual commentaries and comparing to the pages in the combined Matthew/Mark/Luke commentary from the 12-volume set.  The page numbers are identical, so I guess the commentaries are the same in the individual and the combined versions.

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Jim VanSchoonhoven | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 11 2010 9:13 PM

You are right I was comparing two different sets of  OT and NT commentaries with each other, one being a two volume set and one being a 12 vovlume set.

Is Logos selling the Matt alone two volume set?

In Christ,

Jim

 

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