Is there away to turn off Logos footnotes to copy/pasty in to Word?

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Mykola Leliovskyi | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Oct 6 2016 2:20 AM

Hi,

When copying/pasting text from Logos 6 to MS Word I ran into the following problem. Besides the original footnotes made by the author, Logos is also including its own footnotes transcribing abbreviations, such as

mt Masoretic Text

lxx Septuagint

e.g. exempli gratia, for example

VTSup Vetus Testamentum Supplements

NICOT New International Commentary on the Old Testament

AB Anchor Bible

NAC New American Commentary

CBQ Catholic Biblical Quarterly

ZAW Zeitschrift für die alttestamentliche Wissenschaft

JSOT Journal for the Study of the Old Testament

ZAW Zeitschrift für die alttestamentliche Wissenschaft

ICC International Critical Commentary

WBC Word Biblical Commentary

VT Vetus Testamentum

... And so on

Before I was able to turn it off in settings by disabling the "Copy Footnotes" option, while leaving the "Copy citations" enabled.

But now if I do that Logos will not only not copy extraneous footnotes mentioned above, but will also leave out the original footnotes made by the author of the text.

So the question is: is there still a way to copy and paste the text without the Logos added footnotes, while keeping the original ones? It's very inconvenient and time consuming to "clean up" the document from all the extra footnotes.

Thanks!

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Richard Wardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 6 2016 2:35 AM

Hi Mykola.

I can reproduce this in the New Testament Use Of The Old Testament when copying into MS Word:

In L7 I managed to lose the "extraneous footnote" by doing as you said - Copy Citations "Yes", Copy Footnotes "No".

I found that after changing the settings I had to re-select the text before copying and pasting to get the desired outcome. 

Perhaps this is a bug in L6?

Hope you get it fixed! 

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Mykola Leliovskyi | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 6 2016 10:23 AM

Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me anymore. I lose the original footnotes as well.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 9 2016 1:36 PM

Mykola Leliovskyi:

Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me anymore. I lose the original footnotes as well.

AFAIK all "footnotes" are excluded. Why should it distinguish "original footnotes"? Provide an example.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 9 2016 1:44 PM

Dave Hooton:

Mykola Leliovskyi:

Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me anymore. I lose the original footnotes as well.

AFAIK all "footnotes" are excluded. Why should it distinguish "original footnotes"? Provide an example.

I think what he wants is normal behavior ... the notes that are in the resource remain as notes and the Logos tagging does not appear as footnotes. This is a bug either in the resource or the program as the example shown in the replication above should NEVER occur.

Reported in https://community.logos.com/forums/t/131738.aspx

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Mykola Leliovskyi:
So the question is: is there still a way to copy and paste the text without the Logos added footnotes, while keeping the original ones? It's very inconvenient and time consuming to "clean up" the document from all the extra footnotes.

No, there is not. The "Copy footnotes" setting controls both kinds.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Oct 9 2016 6:18 PM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):
The "Copy footnotes" setting controls both kinds.

The problem is that these are not footnotes - anywhere. And they do not show as footnotes in page mode. And no academic style has you use both an inline reference and a footnote.

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David Massey | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 16 2016 5:00 PM

Was there ever a fix to this? I've encountered the same problem. Very frustrating, especially when using Beale and Carson's commentary on NT use of the OT.

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Vicki Park | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 7 2017 2:52 AM

Yes, this is an issue that needs to be addressed. I have to allow one whole day of my assessment, to 1) get rid of these extraneous footnotes. 2) change the style to that required by my University, as they use a modified version of SBL or Chigago. It is a pity we also can't create the University's modified style.  Secondly, the footnotes format can at times be quite different from the other footnotes, so I have to check whether they follow the same format as the others (like sometimes the Christian name will be after the surname, the edition number will be goodness knows where). And then in NIDOTTE there is no volume number.  This causes me to lose marks with my lecturer as I am not correctly footnoting and of course he can not easily check that I have not cheated and am correct in my referencing to prevent plagiarism.

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Vikram Pimplekar | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 2 2019 1:44 PM

I was able to paste without the footnotes by pasting it through Paste Special....  and then Pasting it as an Unformatted Text...hope that helps. 

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Koos de Lijster | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 24 2019 6:50 AM

Hello everyone,

I'm using Logos 8 and I have the same problem. You cannot simply select these footnotes and delete them, because either Word does not react or it displays an error message ("This is no valid ... and so on").

In order to remove redundant (invisible) footnotes or convert them to normal footnotes, I have written two macro's. You must have some knowledge of macro's in Microsoft Word. But if you have or with the help of someone else you can use them to remove of convert these footnotes (and a number of them at once). Be sure to study the instructions at the start of each macro and to take notice of my disclaimer!

Enjoy it!

DELETE LOGOS FOOTNOTES

Sub DeleteLogosFootnotes()

'This macro deletes 'invisible' Logos footnotes.
'Logos uses footnotes whose anchors are invisible to display popups that (for example) write out an abbreviation.
'This macro automates the following proces:
' starting with the cursor in a footnote:
' rightclick and goto footnote (anchor); delete the anchor (which also deletes the footnote); repair the last word or interpunction.
'Make sure the document is diplayed in print view.
'Select one or more footnotes (in the footnotes area, select footnotes without number/letter/symbol before it) and run this macro.
'Note that the selected footnotes must form one block. The macro will not perform correctly when several blocks are selected simultaneously.
'I suggest to link this macro to a button or key-combination in order to have it easily accessible.
'If you don't know how: Google on: Assigning a Macro to a Shortcut Key. Or something like that.

'***** THIS MACRO IS PROVIDED 'AS IS'. I AM NOT OBLIGED IN ANY WAY TO PROVIDE SUPPORT !!!!!
'***** I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHATEVER GOES WRONG !!!!!
'***** I advise you to always check and double check to see whether the macro only did what you intended !!!!!

Set myrange = Selection.Range

For i = 1 To myrange.Footnotes.Count 'set counter for number of footnotes selected and repeats the following instructions this many times
ActiveWindow.View.SeekView = wdSeekMainDocument 'go to footnote anchor
Selection.MoveRight Unit:=wdCharacter, Count:=1, Extend:=wdExtend 'expand the selection in orde to include the footnote anchor
r = Selection.Footnotes(1).Reference 'copy the anchor characters of the footnote to the clipboard
Selection.Delete 'delete the footnote (its anchor is already selected)
Selection.InsertAfter r 'insert the replacement of the anchor characters
ActiveWindow.View.SeekView = wdSeekFootnotes 'go back to the footnote section
Next i

End Sub

CONVERT LOGOS FOOTNOTES

Sub ConvertLogosFootnotes()

'This macro converts 'invisible' Logos footnotes into normal footnotes.
'Logos uses footnotes whose anchors are invisible to display popups that (for example) write out an abbreviation.
'This macro automates the following proces:
' starting with the cursor in a footnote:
' copy the footnote; rightclick and goto footnote (anchor); delete the anchor (which also deletes the footnote); repair the last word or interpunction; insert new footnote; add copied content to it.
'Make sure the document is diplayed in print view.
'Select one or more footnotes (in the footnotes area, select footnotes without number/letter/symbol before it) and run this macro.
'Note that the selected footnotes must form one block. The macro will not perform correctly when several blocks are selected simultaneously.
'I suggest to link this macro to a button or key-combination in order to have it easily accessible.
'If you don't know how: Google on: Assigning a Macro to a Shortcut Key. Or something like that.

'***** THIS MACRO IS PROVIDED 'AS IS'. I AM NOT OBLIGED IN ANY WAY TO PROVIDE SUPPORT !!!!!
'***** I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHATEVER GOES WRONG !!!!!
'***** I advise you to always check and double check to see whether the macro only did what you intended !!!!!

Set myrange = Selection.Range

For i = 1 To myrange.Footnotes.Count 'set counter for number of footnotes selected and repeats the following instructions this many times
ActiveWindow.View.SeekView = wdSeekMainDocument 'go to footnote anchor
Selection.MoveRight Unit:=wdCharacter, Count:=1, Extend:=wdExtend 'expand the selection in orde to include the footnote anchor
Set rng = Selection.Range 'these and the following lines correct, if necessary, Word's behavior to delete a double space
rng.Collapse wdCollapseStart
rng.MoveStart wdCharacter, -1
If Asc(rng.Text) = 32 Then
r = Selection.Footnotes(1).Reference & Chr(32)
Else
r = Selection.Footnotes(1).Reference
End If
Set rng = Nothing
Selection.Delete 'delete the footnote (its anchor is already selected)
Selection.InsertAfter r 'insert the replacement of the anchor characters
ActiveWindow.View.SeekView = wdSeekFootnotes 'go back to the footnote section
Next i

End Sub

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Koos de Lijster | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 26 2019 12:58 PM

I wanted to update the code in my previous post, but I could not find out how. So I reply to my previous post.

In the attached txt-file is an improved version of the code:

4370.ConvertOrDeleteLogosFootnotesFromMSWord.txt

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