Why all the bundling? Request to Logos/Faithlife staff

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 25 2017 4:34 AM

Has anything been broken up since we started this post? Is there an ETA on this? Just curious. 

Found another today I'd like to see broken up: https://www.logos.com/product/55807/crossway-biblical-theology-collection 

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Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 25 2017 7:48 AM

Mattillo:

Has anything been broken up since we started this post? Is there an ETA on this? Just curious. 

Found another today I'd like to see broken up: https://www.logos.com/product/55807/crossway-biblical-theology-collection 

Probably not very many.

Rather than breaking up collections here and there, we're trying to invest our time building a solution that will allows to automatically split out bundles. I'm not sure when that'll be coming, but it's pretty high on the list.

Thanks!

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Bobby Terhune | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 25 2017 5:30 PM

Mattillo,

Crossway bundles were just released March 6th, so I think It will be closer to the end of the year for those.

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 25 2017 5:52 PM

Thank you Mr Ben!

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 13 2017 5:51 AM

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

PetahChristian:

PetahChristian:

We apparently can't buy OT355's EBCREV06 resource separately, as there is an "Only sold as part of the collection" icon.

However, that commentary volume is the most-linked resource for the course, at 49x. What are we supposed to do when we have pre-ordered the course, but can't afford to buy a whole commentary set to get access to a single critical volume?

Can the publisher please relax that restriction?

Can anything be done about this? Is it FL's policy to ensure that Mobile Ed course resources are sold separately?

I'm looking into this right now. I'm not sure why we aren't currently selling that resource as a standalone product. 

Ben,

OliveTree and Accordance sell EBCREV volumes individually, as well as in a set. Can FL please offer the same flexibility? Thanks!

Also Accordance has EBCREV on sale for 52% off. How is it that a competitor can put Zondervan products on sale, but FL is restricted to publisher sales only? Waiting another year or so for Zondervan to put a particular Logos product on sale is not practical. Is there any chance that the Zondervan contract can be renegotiated to provide Logos customers with competitive dynamic pricing and more frequent sales?

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David Bailey | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 13 2017 9:57 AM

PetahChristian:

Ben,

OliveTree and Accordance sell EBCREV volumes individually, as well as in a set. Can FL please offer the same flexibility? Thanks!

Also Accordance has EBCREV on sale for 52% off. How is it that a competitor can put Zondervan products on sale, but FL is restricted to publisher sales only? Waiting another year or so for Zondervan to put a particular Logos product on sale is not practical. Is there any chance that the Zondervan contract can be renegotiated to provide Logos customers with competitive dynamic pricing and more frequent sales?

PetahChristian,

Thanks for the info!  I'm considering adding this to my Accordance collection.  Smile

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Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 16 2017 2:23 PM

PetahChristian:

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

PetahChristian:

PetahChristian:

We apparently can't buy OT355's EBCREV06 resource separately, as there is an "Only sold as part of the collection" icon.

However, that commentary volume is the most-linked resource for the course, at 49x. What are we supposed to do when we have pre-ordered the course, but can't afford to buy a whole commentary set to get access to a single critical volume?

Can the publisher please relax that restriction?

Can anything be done about this? Is it FL's policy to ensure that Mobile Ed course resources are sold separately?

I'm looking into this right now. I'm not sure why we aren't currently selling that resource as a standalone product. 

Ben,

OliveTree and Accordance sell EBCREV volumes individually, as well as in a set. Can FL please offer the same flexibility? Thanks!

Also Accordance has EBCREV on sale for 52% off. How is it that a competitor can put Zondervan products on sale, but FL is restricted to publisher sales only? Waiting another year or so for Zondervan to put a particular Logos product on sale is not practical. Is there any chance that the Zondervan contract can be renegotiated to provide Logos customers with competitive dynamic pricing and more frequent sales?

This volume is now available as a standalone resource https://www.logos.com/product/54533/the-expositors-bible-commentary-volume-6-proverbs-isaiah

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Josh Hunt | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 16 2017 3:17 PM

I agree. It seems Logos in only hurting themselves. I'd gladly spend $20 for a book. I might buy one today and another tomorrow and another the next. But, there would never be a day I'd spend $100. Especially true if I am spending $100 to get a $20 book I want along with several books I don't want. 

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 16 2017 6:10 PM

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):
This volume is now available as a standalone resource

Thanks very much, Ben!

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 4 2017 2:51 AM

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

Mattillo:

Has anything been broken up since we started this post? Is there an ETA on this? Just curious. 

Found another today I'd like to see broken up: https://www.logos.com/product/55807/crossway-biblical-theology-collection 

Probably not very many.

Rather than breaking up collections here and there, we're trying to invest our time building a solution that will allows to automatically split out bundles. I'm not sure when that'll be coming, but it's pretty high on the list.

Thanks!

Any updates on this Mr. Ben?  Will the bundles in this post be broken up soon?  Thank you in advance

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Michael McLane | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 4 2017 7:24 AM

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):
This volume is now available as a standalone resource

Can you also make this volume a stand alone?

https://www.logos.com/product/55822/crossway-studies-on-the-trinitarian-god#002

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Mattillo:

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

Mattillo:

Has anything been broken up since we started this post? Is there an ETA on this? Just curious. 

Found another today I'd like to see broken up: https://www.logos.com/product/55807/crossway-biblical-theology-collection 

Probably not very many.

Rather than breaking up collections here and there, we're trying to invest our time building a solution that will allows to automatically split out bundles. I'm not sure when that'll be coming, but it's pretty high on the list.

Thanks!

Any updates on this Mr. Ben?  Will the bundles in this post be broken up soon?  Thank you in advance

Unfortunately there isn't too much to say at this point. As I said earlier, we have a case in our queue to get a tool built to automatically split collections. However, there are a number of other projects in front of it that are taking a bit more time.

I'll see if we can prioritize a few collection in this post, but I can't give you a good projection of when exactly that will happen. 

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 4 2017 9:12 AM

Thank you Ben. Earlier posts will have the ones I was interested in. As well as others I'm sure

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 13 2017 6:56 PM

Could Science & Faith: Friends or Foes? and Did Adam and Eve Really Exist? Who They Were and Why You Should Care please be unbundled? They are both used by TH331, but sold in a 12-volume collection.

Thank you!

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Stephen Steele | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 14 2017 3:03 AM

It would be great if some of the remaining public domain classic collections were broken up - eg Epistles of JohnGenesis  and Colossians. Many of them have already been broken up but some haven't

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Stephen Steele | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 14 2017 3:13 AM

Also John Brown of Haddington's Systematic Theology is available as part of the Systematic Theologies Collection for $1,592.81 but not available separately (it was part of a CP set that has been languishing unfunded for years).

This week I met a guy from Chile who is doing a ThM on Brown's Covenantal Theology (he's mentioned by Joel Beeke here). He would love to have this resource digitally, but there's no chance of it making it through Community Pricing in the year he will be studying.

I would pay $100 just for that resource (and have bid the maximum price for the CP set) - please could you make it available to buy separately Ben? Even for a ridiculous price!

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 14 2017 4:51 AM

Stephen Steele:
I would pay $100 just for that resource (and have bid the maximum price for the CP set) - please could you make it available to buy separately Ben?

I don't think it's even been produced yet: https://www.logos.com/product/54327/a-compendious-view-of-natural-and-revealed-religion. Maybe someone with the Systematic Theologies collection could confirm.

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Pat Brown | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 14 2017 8:31 AM

I'm glad to hear that Logos is looking into this issue. Like others, I'd rather spend more on the one stand-alone book. It's not a bargain if I have to spend an extra $50 on books I don't want. And, like others, I've had to and be practical keep my money in my wallet.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 14 2017 9:48 AM

Mark Barnes:

Stephen Steele:
I would pay $100 just for that resource (and have bid the maximum price for the CP set) - please could you make it available to buy separately Ben?

I don't think it's even been produced yet: https://www.logos.com/product/54327/a-compendious-view-of-natural-and-revealed-religion. Maybe someone with the Systematic Theologies collection could confirm.

John Brown's Systematic Theology resource Table of Contents:

Keep Smiling Smile

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 7 2017 9:49 AM

Ben

The counterpoint series is currently on sale but I believe some of them are bundled and can't be purchased at the sale price. Any chance they can be broken up so they can also go on sale? 

https://zondervanacademic.com/blog/software-sale-expositors-bible-commentary-counterpoints-and-more/ 

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