So...what would make you buy more books from Logos?

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David Housholder | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 10 2017 3:28 PM

Single books. The bundles may be good for some situations, but I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on a bundle if I just want one or two books that are in it.

DEH

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GaoLu | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 10 2017 4:17 PM

David Housholder:

Single books. The bundles may be good for some situations, but I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on a bundle if I just want one or two books that are in it.

DEH

I am passing up DA Carson's EBC commentary for that reason.  I just don't want to buy all EBC right now. Soon I will be moving past Matthew and won't come back for a while at that level.  So it is.

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Wayne Donald Baker | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 20 2018 12:34 AM

I would suggest a great idea would be offer course bundles, that is the course along with the resources or at least, the key resources for the course.  You could buy the course or you could buy the course bundle.  When you have a major Mobile Ed sale on, do an grade A promotion with optianal bundles with great savings.

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 20 2018 4:43 AM

Wayne Donald Baker:

I would suggest a great idea would be offer course bundles, that is the course along with the resources or at least, the key resources for the course.  

Yes  Great idea! 

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Al Het | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 21 2018 3:02 PM

David Paul:
One thing I can say for sure is that the idea of external notes is one big fat STINK BOMB.

David Paul:
Nothing that OneNote or EverNote can do replicates this...

I appreciate you giving this example.  As someone who does use external notes, I CAN see how easy it would be to just click on the notes in the passage.  Using external notes requires opening another program, pulling up the passage you are studying (if you happen to have notes on that passage) and working from there.  And, these notes would not be linked to other potential references in your library.  This isn't a major problem for me, given how I tend to study passages.  However, I can see how it could be harder, if you study Scripture differently than I do.

The downside is exactly where you are.  You are at the mercy of Logos, as they continually change their software, to try to keep things "fresh."  If they decide "Notes" should be done differently, or aren't important on a new version, all those notes can become irrelevant once you are forced to update to newer versions.  It is difficult.

Unrelated question:  I was impressed by the quantity of information you have tucked into the text of a single passage.  I can see how it would be useful, but I would have a terrible time just reading through the passage, to get an overall feel for it (I tend to be easily distracted).  Made me wonder if, when you just wanted to read through a passage, what you do.  Do you read the passage in a different version which doesn't have these notations, or have you just gotten used to it, so you can read through it without being distracted?

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 22 2018 9:18 AM

Al Het:
I appreciate you giving this example.  As someone who does use external notes, I CAN see how easy it would be to just click on the notes in the passage.

Actually, the beauty and elegant efficiency of L3 is that you don't have to CLICK on anything...just hover and Presto!...a full screen of info related to your verse, passage, or word. If one screen-full isn't enough, just add another note.

Al Het:
Do you read the passage in a different version which doesn't have these notations, or have you just gotten used to it, so you can read through it without being distracted?

I have just gotten used to notes icons and other mark-ups; they don't bother me or slow my reading. Of course, these can be turned off if one wanted to read plain text. I actually find that the mark-ups enhance my comprehension, because my notes and colorizing of the text have the effect of chunking the text into memorable & easily digestible nuggets. Also, I am able to quickly find sections because I know the visual "feel" they have.

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 22 2018 10:00 AM

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David Paul:
In L3, every one of these note icons is capable of bringing up a complete screenful of pertinent and highly useful information ... But this screen can be filled pretty much with anything text based, regardless of language, including fully formatted interlinear passages..

Concur Logos 7 and Verbum 7 limit the size of Note pop-up:

Unbelievably irrelevant to this conversation, but using an FL platform yesterday, reading a monograph, in the footnote pop up,  the design accommodated literally 7 panels of text (really long footnote!). The same platform could only manage 2-3 verses in a reference pop up before demanding opening a full Bible; if a chapter, only its heading. So convenient.

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 22 2018 10:07 AM

David Housholder:

Single books. The bundles may be good for some situations, but I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on a bundle if I just want one or two books that are in it.

DEH

I totally agree. I have the Complete Word Study NT and want the OT, but not all the other AMG books in the bundle. I would buy it now if it was available all by itself.

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 22 2018 4:23 PM

Kevin A. Purcell:
I have the Complete Word Study NT and want the OT, but not all the other AMG books in the bundle. I would buy it now if it was available all by itself.

If it will make you feel any better, I pretty much bought the AMG bundle just for CWS/OT (already had NT), and I find it isn't nearly as invaluable. TWOT is far more serviceable. You probably know this, but the OT dictionary is not written by Zodhiates and so it doesn't have his insight or attention to detail. His Greek background obviously didn't help w/ Hebrew.

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 22 2018 6:03 PM

Jewish prayer books have been suggested as far back as 2011.

Carta would also be on the top of my list of resources to buy within Logos. Please vote for it Wink

The Fire Bible is another popular suggestion which many people have voted for. 

I would also buy a Jewish base package.

Thanks to everyone who has been working on procuring these items!

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 23 2018 6:19 AM

PetahChristian:
Carta would also be on the top of my list of resources to buy within Logos. Please vote for it Wink

That is on many people's lists. Now we are just patiently waiting to see if Faithlife can work out something with them. This would be an amazing addition to Logos as, as the title of this thread reads it would make me buy more books.

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Al Het | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 23 2018 2:55 PM

David Paul:
Actually, the beauty and elegant efficiency of L3 is that you don't have to CLICK on anything...just hover and Presto!...a full screen of info related to your verse, passage, or word.

Ah yes.  This is true.  I was using the "click on" phrase in a somewhat generic way. 

L3 was my favorite version as well.  It lined up better with the way I take passages apart than the newer format.  And, most of the additions since L3 have done nothing but slow down my system, and force me to take extra steps to get the information I want.  However, upgrading my computer system has forced me out of it on my most used computer, and resources I have bought since won't show up on L3.  I definitely lost some efficiency and usability.

I hope L3 works for you for a long time.

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 27 2018 6:20 AM

It seems logical that the best answer is resources which appeal to one's interest.  What those resources would have to be varies from person to person, of course.

As I said earlier, the Bicentennial Edition of Wesley's Works is at the top of my list.  If any Bible Software program comes out with that, I will buy.

But I also would love more of Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones works, especially his Romans sermons.  Also, Carta would tempt me.

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Richard Villanueva | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 28 2018 2:35 PM

Two things I can think of: (sorry if it's a repeat, I have not read every post.) 

1/ Maybe creating Suggested books for fields of studies or from notable Pastors, Theologians, and Church Leaders?  It could even be a blog series about suggested reading lists, books that have most impacted these Church Leaders and Theologians personal walk or studies.  

2/ Have more books! Of all my class text-books, only half are available in Logos. Having more books and updated editions of books would make me buy more.  Even if they were available w/out the ValueAdded portion, I would buy them as a FL Ebook. I wrote a suggestion here: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/171904/993047

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 28 2018 10:49 PM

Richard Villanueva:
Have more books!

This is a suggestion straight from the desk of Captain Obvious, but the answer to "what would make you buy more books from Logos?" is fundamentally "MORE BOOKS IN LOGOS". I've bought dozens of books in the last year, some quite expensive, which are not available in Logos. If FL wants a piece of that action, they need to step up their offerings. Quite a few of the books I've purchased are CONSTANTLY mentioned in the bibliographies of books I already owned. These (Robert Alter's stuff is one example) are often CLASSICS in the Biblical Studies domain, and FL should short list about 100-200 such books and put them into production immediately regardless of PrePub status.

I have suggested this in the past, years ago, but the biggest priority for acquisitions should be the 100 titles that are most often mentioned by the resources that are already available in Logos. That list obviously includes a number of journals (Vetus Testamentum and Novum Testamentum are clear top candidates among others), but there are tons of books that are frequently cited by current Logos resources but which are not available in Logos. That is an almost criminal oversight. 

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Richard Villanueva | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 29 2018 12:26 AM

David Paul:
This is a suggestion straight from the desk of Captain Obvious,

Funny you mention him, my office is adjacent to the good Captain and he asked me to post here! Wink

David Paul:
Quite a few of the books I've purchased are CONSTANTLY mentioned in the bibliographies of books I already owned. These (Robert Alter's stuff is one example

Agreed! I'm not sure what the hold up is for this - is it licensing? Is it production time? Is it not knowing the demand? My understanding is that there are even books referenced in Mobile Ed courses that are not in Logos (someone will have to fact check me on that...) which, if true, is strange to me. Not sure how anyone can compete with Amazon on iBooks, but access and availability often determine where my dollar goes, especially in a time crunch where I simply cannot wait 6+ months for something to pass prepub because class starts... last week! 

I would be happy to have an ebook in FL Ebook format with the potential of a Logos upgrade in the future now, than not in Logos at all and having to buy somewhere else.

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 29 2018 12:50 AM

Richard Villanueva:
I would be happy to have an ebook in FL Ebook format with the potential of a Logos upgrade in the future now, than not in Logos at all and having to buy somewhere else.

Agreed. Not a huge fan of having Logos books that aren't available to my hotlinks, but having an ebook that allows use of cut-and-paste rather than having to type out passages for quoting would be a blessing.

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 4 2018 8:17 AM

David Paul:
rather than having to type out passages for quoting would be a blessing.

You don't need to type passages.

http://www.scanningpens.com/data_capture_usa/scanmarker.html

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 19 2018 11:50 PM

Have you used one of these pens, and does it work as effectively and efficiently as described? One thing I know it won't do is create a footnote.

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