Convert Kindle books to Logos?

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 29 2017 4:16 AM

Whyndell Grizzard:

I appreciate your efforts but I can't get the hang of this- every book so far I have just deleted can't get them right.

Please wait for the auto scroll function. It will make things much easier. It will hopefully be complete within a week.

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 29 2017 9:04 AM

Jan Krohn:

Whyndell Grizzard:

I appreciate your efforts but I can't get the hang of this- every book so far I have just deleted can't get them right.

Please wait for the auto scroll function. It will make things much easier. It will hopefully be complete within a week.

Don't get me wrong- its a good app- but for what I do- its not working. I'll keep trying- so keep updating it.

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 4 2017 5:51 AM

Jan Krohn:

I've created a small tool that can convert Kindle to HTML without removing (or even touching) the DRM. Actually this thread here got me first thinking about the idea.

https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/amazon-global/81-amazon-kindle-ebook-downloader

Since I'm not a lawyer either, I can't comment on the legality either, however for countries where removing DRM is clearly illegal, my tool might be a good option.

I decided to give the app another try on my favorite book by Leon Morris(The Apostolic Preaching of the Cross):

I noticed that in copy all- it would miss pages- had to use footnote numbers to track down missing data.

I still have work to do- re-linking all the foot notes in the docx file- but was surprised that it only took 6 hours for me to compile the book.

Looks good in Logos.

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 24 2017 2:17 PM

Can I get a quick understanding of the legality of converting Kindle books to Logos?  I tried looking for information regarding this.  I am sure it has already come up but I can't find the information.

Thanks

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 24 2017 6:31 PM

Mark:

Can I get a quick understanding of the legality of converting Kindle books to Logos?  I tried looking for information regarding this.  I am sure it has already come up but I can't find the information.

Thanks

You aren't going to get a satisfactory answer. No one can point to something authoritative and say, "it's settled, here's the answer." It certainly breaks Kindle's rules. There are other cases one can point to, but they aren't satisfactorily equivalent. You can, for example, make a personal copy of a compact disc as a backup. This isn't that.  

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 25 2017 4:54 AM

Thanks alabama24

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Norman Collins | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 21 2018 2:04 PM

This article you referenced is the reverse of what he's trying to do

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 23 2018 2:42 PM

JT (alabama24):
You can, for example, make a personal copy of a compact disc as a backup. This isn't that.  

Has a court said there is a legal difference in making a personal copy of a cd and an electronic book?  Is that a fact that this isn't that?

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Liam | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 23 2018 3:39 PM

Just posting so this thread shows in my threads.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 23 2018 5:54 PM

Michael Childs:

JT (alabama24):
You can, for example, make a personal copy of a compact disc as a backup. This isn't that.  

Has a court said there is a legal difference in making a personal copy of a cd and an electronic book?  Is that a fact that this isn't that?

I don’t think so, and you have worn me down to something closer to your view... If you read my post again you will see that I have said “it isn’t clear.” As to making a copy of a CD vs. converting a Kindle book into a different format... those aren’t the “same thing.” The closest eqivel would be copying the kindle book, in its original format, to a thumb drive. Again, I have come to the point where I believe it is certainly unclear. Copying a CD, however, is clear. 

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Diah | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 7 2019 9:13 AM

Does the "Copy All" button work or am I missing a step?

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Robert Neely | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 7 2019 10:38 AM

Kindle has a copy limit that varies by publisher.  Typical is 10%. 

It violates the amazon kindle policy to copy whole kindle books. 

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Lee Gordon | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 16 2020 9:46 AM

Jan Krohn:

Please wait for the auto scroll function. It will make things much easier. It will hopefully be complete within a week.

Jan, did you ever get the auto-scroll feature working? This would help so much.

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 16 2020 12:41 PM

Lee Gordon:
Jan, did you ever get the auto-scroll feature working? This would help so much.

Never to the level that I had wanted to.

But re-examining this application is on my to-do list for this year. Maybe I find the solution now after such a long break (much longer than expected / planned).

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 5 2020 5:35 AM

I have found the only way to get definite answers- contact the publisher- I have on approximately 400 titles- you may pay a fee ranging from $4-10 dollars, and I have actually been furnished PDF, RTF or Docx files in 30% of the cases, you have to ask. 

I do have a program to convert Kindle to Word by copy / paste- but have found its just easier to take a few extra steps. Just so you know some will just say "NON!!" but that's life.

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John | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 5 2020 6:22 AM

What do you ask them when you contact them?  Specifically if they offer a PDF/DOCX version of the book?

Any insight into which publishers are more likely to offer this vs. ones that aren’t in your experience?

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 5 2020 8:48 AM

John:

What do you ask them when you contact them?  Specifically if they offer a PDF/DOCX version of the book?

Any insight into which publishers are more likely to offer this vs. ones that aren’t in your experience?

Yes just ask them if they offer a downloadable version or if they can send it.

This is a process basically, usually when you contact them it will depend on the book, different books, different people. They will sometimes know immediately, about 30% of the time, or they will start a process by which you get permission, and pay. However it goes make sure "you" remain faithful to the agreement, this is a legal and binding transaction. I have gotten permission from Baker, AMG, and numerous less known publishers. To be honest it's probably going to depend on the book and what's happening between publisher and author- they will not jeopardize that relationship.

Ask Logos to see if someone there has a contact with a particular publisher for books they are not involved with. 

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Josh Hunt | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 13 2020 7:04 AM

I got the program to work. thanks so much.

As i understand it, I have to copy one chapter at a time?

Am I missing something?

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Lee Gordon | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 13 2020 9:00 AM

Josh Hunt:

I got the program to work. thanks so much.

As i understand it, I have to copy one chapter at a time?

Am I missing something?

Nope. As I understand it, that's the way it works. For me, it doesn't just automatically do one chapter at a time. It does about 7-10 pages at a time. It tends to overlap and repeat content, which you then have to go back and edit. The final product required hours of editing, and I still couldn't get it right. I'm hoping for the automatic version.

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 15 2020 5:35 AM

I have been using program again and found highlighting and copying 4-5 paragraphs at a time works best do very little if any editing- except to format to my liking.

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