Discourse Features Visual Filter

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 13 2017 4:05 PM

Andrew:

my dynamic price for the Lexham Discourse Bible (8 vols.) is $104.99 USD.

Might be worth looking into Logos Now at that price, considering everything else that it provides.

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Allan Fletchall | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 13 2017 6:16 PM

I previously bought the Greek and Hebrew discourse bundles.  My price for the discourse bible was 21.99.

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Ken F Hill | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 7 2017 4:48 AM

Andrew:

I can't find the Discourse Features Visual Filter even within the Lexham English Bible (the sample used in Lexham Discourse Greek New Testament: Dataset Documentation).  Any suggestions?

I am in the same boat as you I have some discourse bundles but the discourse features don't show up.  I'm still trying to parse the information in this thread.

But my question now is : does the discourse features visual filter show the same information as the high def NT (HDNT) or does it show different information?

I hope this does not hijack your thread.  Thanks for posting your question about what is to me a confusing topic.

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Beloved | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 7 2017 6:15 AM

Ken F Hill:
I am in the same boat as you I have some discourse bundles but the discourse features don't show up.

Are you a Now member? If so the functionality will appear in the Visual Filter menu under the Resource heading for your English bibles (checked ESV, LEB and NASB).

Ken F Hill:
But my question now is : does the discourse features visual filter show the same information as the high def NT (HDNT) or does it show different information?

As far as I can tell, the answer is yes.

Edit: One more thing, watch the brief video found within the resource information page for the Lexham Discourse Bible(8 vols). It sheds light on the usefulness of the Hebrew and Greek Discourse bibles for your studies. 

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

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Ken F Hill | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 7 2017 11:05 AM

I just upgraded.  I had previously bought this as a 6-volume set so my cost was very affordable for the rest of the remaining 2 resources in the 8-volume set.

This dataset gives me more information than the HDNT.  The blue structure outline is the same but now I have more underlying information in the Bible text (I'm looking at Matt 18.15 ff) -- things like conditional frame, topical frame, and thematic addition.  That stuff is not in the HDNT. 

Thanks for the help.

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Beloved | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 7 2017 11:18 AM

Ken F Hill:
I just upgraded.  I had previously bought this as a 6-volume set

You may have indirectly answered a question I had in another thread https://community.logos.com/forums/p/140396/916366.aspx#916366  

Ken F Hill:
This dataset gives me more information than the HDNT.

My answer to your question was based on my observations using the 6 vol bundle. You have sold me on the upgrade it's nominal.

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 7 2017 12:49 PM

Ken F Hill:

I just upgraded.  I had previously bought this as a 6-volume set so my cost was very affordable for the rest of the remaining 2 resources in the 8-volume set.

This dataset gives me more information than the HDNT.  The blue structure outline is the same but now I have more underlying information in the Bible text (I'm looking at Matt 18.15 ff) -- things like conditional frame, topical frame, and thematic addition.  That stuff is not in the HDNT. 

Thanks for the help.

The move from bundled RESOURCES to a DATASET created a lot of confusion. Discourse markers were bound to the LDGNT or the HDNT(ESV) in the old bundled resources, but the new DATASET allow the discourse markers to be turned on via visual filter in other translations (as long as there is Reverse Interlinear tagging).

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 7 2017 12:58 PM

So if you buy the extended feature set you can have this as well permanently? 

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Beloved | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 7 2017 1:23 PM

If you own the Bible Bundles you can update to the 8 vol set for a song and own the datasets permanently. If not the extended feature set is your best bet AFAIK.

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

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