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Robert Peters | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 10 2017 12:48 PM

scooter:

Robert Peters:

Is anyone else shocked at the outcome of this years marchmadness? 

May I ask what shocked you?

I am shocked that keller, who looks to loose this round. I am also shock so many author who one can get in a base package for cheaper are beating other guys like wesley, chesterton, etc

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scooter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 10 2017 1:18 PM

Robert Peters:
I am also shock so many author who one can get in a base package for cheaper are beating other guys like wesley, chesterton, etc

I do not purchase base packages.  I pick my books at FL 1 at a time.  For me its cheaper this way than thru a package, where, although the cost per volume is less, the overall hit is greater.  If an aunt I have never heard of passes + leaves me lots of FL money, I will buy packages.

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 10 2017 1:31 PM

Robert Peters:
I am shocked that keller, who looks to loose this round.

I think you may be premature in your forecast as currently there only only a few hundred votes whereas there were 5,000 votes in the Keller round last time.

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 10 2017 2:59 PM

Aren't people stupid to vote for what they want instead of what I want?  

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 10 2017 3:39 PM

Michael Childs:

Aren't people stupid to vote for what they want instead of what I want?  

yes, agreed. except replacing I with you.  or you with me.  or something to that effect! Wink

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 10 2017 3:42 PM

Ben:

Yes, it would nice if e.g. Anchor Bible Commentary authors (Brown, Fitzmeyer) could go beyond 30%, since those are all $60 a pop.

yeah, I did not like who they were paired with.  I can't imagine having to do the bracket each year--someone will be unhappy.  But I would have liked to see some of the Catholic authors (and I am not Catholic) at least go head to head to ensure one of them went on.  Brown v. Fitzmeyer. . . that would have been tough.  I definitely think Logos might consider in the future including a little blurb under each one to inform others of that author's worth.

I'm guessing that SOME of this is set up for potential sales.  Well, all of it, that is. Big Smile

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Mathew Haferkamp | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 10 2017 5:08 PM

First thanks to logos for even doing this!!  Maybe it would be nice if they gave a whole division to Catholicism.  Just a thought.

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Kevin Olson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 10 2017 6:00 PM

Mathew Haferkamp:

First thanks to logos for even doing this!!  Maybe it would be nice if they gave a whole division to Catholicism.  Just a thought.

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I too am thankful for March Madness.  I have bought a lot of books each year in March and early April.  

However, I would be thrilled to have access to bigger discounts on authors outside of my own theological leanings.  

I think that one good solution would be to have authors from the same denomination go head to head in the first few rounds.  That way each denomination would have authors that go deeper into the tourney.  Everyone would win, because each person's denominaton would have authors carrying the bigger discounts.   

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/136530/883875.aspx#883875

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 10 2017 6:21 PM

They have done this in the past if my memory is correct, or maybe it was just brackets based on time period of author and never on denomination. The trouble with this is it will still leave a lot of people missing out. Say for instance Chesterton gets through to final round of denominational bracket, a lot of people will already own his books and so we are still in same situation as we are now with same complaints. And the final rounds will be just a battle of the denominations. Something FL I do believe would want to avoid. Personally I never limit my reading to a single denomination. There is much to learn about our own beliefs by reading about others beliefs. 

No matter what approach FL takes those with larger libraries are going to be left disappointed at the slim pickings and those who dont want to read outside of their denomination are going to be left with slim pickings too.  It is the newer user or user with a smaller library that wants to build that library and is prepared to read outside of their faith tradition that will gain the most from MM.

Kevin Olson:

Mathew Haferkamp:

First thanks to logos for even doing this!!  Maybe it would be nice if they gave a whole division to Catholicism.  Just a thought.

                In His Name

                                Matt

I too am thankful for March Madness.  I have bought a lot of books each year in March and early April.  

However, I would be thrilled to have access to bigger discounts on authors outside of my own theological leanings.  

I think that one good solution would be to have authors from the same denomination go head to head in the first few rounds.  That way each denomination would have authors that go deeper into the tourney.  Everyone would win, because each person's denominaton would have authors carrying the bigger discounts.   

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/136530/883875.aspx#883875

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 10 2017 11:58 PM

I would suggest that if anyone wants to take that on, it could be useful to post a "tips for smart MM voting". Obviously, some of us are more experienced with it than others. For instance, the principle "push higher cost, more inaccessible resources to a greater discount rather than just think 'I like this or that'" is something that many may not think about.

Since I am disengaged from MM myself, I won't do it. But if one of you wants to, share the wisdom. I would really recommend a fresh thread to draw proper attention.

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Josh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 12 2017 1:42 AM

Any pointers for must-have deals for a nonacademic? This is my first March Madness, and it's all a bit overwhelming!

As per the topic, I'm likely one of the 'frustrating' people who don't have a firm grasp on all of the names Big Smile

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 12 2017 5:23 AM

Josh:

Any pointers for must-have deals for a nonacademic? This is my first March Madness, and it's all a bit overwhelming!

As per the topic, I'm likely one of the 'frustrating' people who don't have a firm grasp on all of the names Big Smile

Check out the deals each round and separate the one you think you might want in your shopping cart. Then when the  competition ends you will have a few days to go over your list and other items and then you can choose what you want to purchase. 

DAL

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 12 2017 6:12 AM

Josh:
Any pointers for must-have deals for a nonacademic?

There are a number of valuable resources of very different kinds. If you want pointers, you may want to indicate what your interests are. 

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Josh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 12 2017 6:31 AM

DAL:

Josh:

Any pointers for must-have deals for a nonacademic? This is my first March Madness, and it's all a bit overwhelming!

As per the topic, I'm likely one of the 'frustrating' people who don't have a firm grasp on all of the names Big Smile

Check out the deals each round and separate the one you think you might want in your shopping cart. Then when the  competition ends you will have a few days to go over your list and other items and then you can choose what you want to purchase. 

DAL

Ah, I was under the mistaken impression that the deals would go away after each around and not stick around. That does make things a lot easier. 

As for interests, I'm mostly trying to build up my commentary/reference library right now. Mainly looking for more down-to-Earth discussions that leave out the academic topics that I'm not quite ready for. I'm also currently leading a men's fellowship through Philippians right now.

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Robert Peters | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 12 2017 7:14 AM

I am surprised that it is this close between fee and keller...

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Everett Headley | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 12 2017 7:51 AM

No surprises for me.  This is a fun little event, a popularity contest.  But it has been years since I really took it seriously.  Whomever wins, great.  I still vote, but if MM didn't happen, I don't think I'd be heartbroken.  

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William M. Harper | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 12 2017 4:23 PM

SteveHD:

I will agree about saving money. If John MacArthur had made it to about 50 or 60% off I would be buying those commentaries. Maybe next year.



I have 5 volumes of the print edition which I purchased several years ago. They look really nice on my book shelf. I wish I had gotten the rest of them. It is disappointing that the Logos electronic edition is so expensive. Yes, maybe next year we can get a better deal on them. 

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 13 2017 6:56 AM

Okay, my latest surprise is the number of votes cast so far in the second round. For instance Tim Keller vs Norman Geisler in round 1 totaled 4,999 votes but the Tim Keller vs Gordon Fee has only generated 368 votes so far and the voting ends today at 3:00 p.m. pst. What gives?

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John Kight | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 13 2017 7:10 AM

Bruce Dunning:

Okay, my latest surprise is the number of votes cast so far in the second round. For instance Tim Keller vs Norman Geisler in round 1 totaled 4,999 votes but the Tim Keller vs Gordon Fee has only generated 368 votes so far and the voting ends today at 3:00 p.m. pst. What gives?

I'm seeing 1453 for Fee and 1500 for Keller

 

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scooter | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 13 2017 7:30 AM

John Kight:

I'm seeing 1453 for Fee and 1500 for Keller

With additional voting, are now 1465 / 1508.

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