The "Historical Adam" Debate

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 4 2017 12:14 PM

Excellent! Glad to hear they'll hit it soon.

"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected."- G.K. Chesterton

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Kevin Wang | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 4 2017 12:30 PM

Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?: Who They Were and Why You Should Care by C. John Collins is a resource I recommend. Unfortunately, it's part of a bundle that's not cheap. 

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 4 2017 12:31 PM

Ben 

Can that bundle be broken up?

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 4 2017 5:14 PM

Mattillo:

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

These two books up on pre-pub/pre-order soon. They are quite relevant to the debate:

http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/adam-and-the-genome/381910

http://www.eerdmans.com/Products/7379/evolution-and-the-fall.aspx

Ben sir... any idea when they might hit prepub?  The genome one sounds very interesting

Thanks for alerting us to these, Ben.  I'm also interested in the general time-frame for prepub.  I'd hate to miss them.

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 8 2017 5:47 PM

Rick Ausdahl:

Mattillo:

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

These two books up on pre-pub/pre-order soon. They are quite relevant to the debate:

http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/adam-and-the-genome/381910

http://www.eerdmans.com/Products/7379/evolution-and-the-fall.aspx

Ben sir... any idea when they might hit prepub?  The genome one sounds very interesting

Thanks for alerting us to these, Ben.  I'm also interested in the general time-frame for prepub.  I'd hate to miss them.

Bump.

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Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 10 2017 9:41 AM

Rick Ausdahl:

Rick Ausdahl:

Mattillo:

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

These two books up on pre-pub/pre-order soon. They are quite relevant to the debate:

http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/adam-and-the-genome/381910

http://www.eerdmans.com/Products/7379/evolution-and-the-fall.aspx

Ben sir... any idea when they might hit prepub?  The genome one sounds very interesting

Thanks for alerting us to these, Ben.  I'm also interested in the general time-frame for prepub.  I'd hate to miss them.

Bump.

I believe we are almost ready to go with Evolution and the Fall. It may be a bit longer before we get Adam and the Genome. I'll keep you up to date as things progress.

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 10 2017 3:02 PM

Awesome!  Thank you, Ben.

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Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 12 2017 8:29 AM

Evolution and the Fall is now available for pre-order.

https://www.logos.com/product/138244/evolution-and-the-fall

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 12 2017 8:45 AM

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

Evolution and the Fall is now available for pre-order.

https://www.logos.com/product/138244/evolution-and-the-fall

Thanks, Ben.  My pre-order has been placed.  I hope you'll post here again when Adam and the Genome is ready for pre-order.

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Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 12 2017 8:57 AM

Rick Ausdahl:
I hope you'll post here again when Adam and the Genome is ready for pre-order.

Definitely.

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Bobby Terhune | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 12 2017 4:35 PM

Ben,

I have to say that the new program putting front list titles into production, without dragging through prepub...sometimes for years, is the best new idea from Logos in a long time. So often myself and others had to purchase elsewhere to keep up with major current issues in Christianity. So thank you vey much for the new program, I hope it does well for you.

Best,

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Rick Ausdahl:

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

Evolution and the Fall is now available for pre-order.

https://www.logos.com/product/138244/evolution-and-the-fall

Thanks, Ben.  My pre-order has been placed.  I hope you'll post here again when Adam and the Genome is ready for pre-order.

Hi Rick,

Here you go! https://www.logos.com/product/138326/adam-and-the-genome-reading-scripture-after-genetic-science

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 4 2017 5:07 PM

There should be a volume out soon "God's truth and a fairy tale", since there really is NO science to evolution - I see no need to dumb down the people of God.

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 5 2017 9:25 AM

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

Rick Ausdahl:

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

Evolution and the Fall is now available for pre-order.

https://www.logos.com/product/138244/evolution-and-the-fall

Thanks, Ben.  My pre-order has been placed.  I hope you'll post here again when Adam and the Genome is ready for pre-order.

Hi Rick,

Here you go! https://www.logos.com/product/138326/adam-and-the-genome-reading-scripture-after-genetic-science

Thanks, Ben!  Added this one to my pre-order list also.

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 9 2017 1:29 PM

Ben Sir,

I appreciate you getting these books into Logos.  Any chance of getting books that represent the other side of the coin such as Johnathan Wells' books Icons of Evolution and Zombie Science?

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Nick Highland | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 9 2017 7:00 PM

I came here to recommend John Walton's "Lost World" books.  Ben beat me to it, so I'll give an enthusiastic "Second."

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Darcy S. Van Horn | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 9 2017 11:19 PM

Hi Rick,

Not sure if anyone has suggested this, but I've got it and am looking forward to reading it, but haven't started it yet:  "Adam, the Fall, and Original Sin: Theological, Biblical, and Scientific Perspectives", edited by Hans Madueme and Michael Reeves.  (https://www.logos.com/product/49131/adam-the-fall-and-original-sin-theological-biblical-and-scientific-perspectives)  A number of well-known contributors including Thomas Schreiner and James Hamilton of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, and Dan Doriani, William Edgar, and Carl Trueman of Westminster Theological Seminary, among others.  Perhaps you will find it helpful.

In Him,

Darcy

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 24 2017 2:30 PM

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

Rick Ausdahl:

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

Evolution and the Fall is now available for pre-order.

https://www.logos.com/product/138244/evolution-and-the-fall

Thanks, Ben.  My pre-order has been placed.  I hope you'll post here again when Adam and the Genome is ready for pre-order.

Hi Rick,

Here you go! https://www.logos.com/product/138326/adam-and-the-genome-reading-scripture-after-genetic-science

Ben sir

I just found out about this book today and I think it would be a really good fit for Logos especially to balance out the last two books added under this topic.  It will be published by Crossway and comes out Nov 30 2017.  Please consider adding to Logos.

Theistic Evolution: A Scientific, Philosophical, and Theological Critique by JP Moreland, Stephen Meyer, Wayne Grudem and more.  ISBN 1433552868.  Amazon Link: www.amazon.com/dp/1433552868/

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 24 2017 3:21 PM

Mattillo:

Ben sir

I just found out about this book today and I think it would be a really good fit for Logos especially to balance out the last two books added under this topic.  It will be published by Crossway and comes out Nov 30 2017.  Please consider adding to Logos.

Theistic Evolution: A Scientific, Philosophical, and Theological Critique by JP Moreland, Stephen Meyer, Wayne Grudem and more.  ISBN 1433552868.  Amazon Link: www.amazon.com/dp/1433552868/

Mattillo,

I agree--it does look like a worthwhile read for anyone interested in this topic.  My only concern is the length of the book.  At a mere 1008 pages, I hope they allowed enough space to cover the topic adequately.  Wink

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Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 24 2017 3:38 PM

Mattillo:

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

Rick Ausdahl:

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

Evolution and the Fall is now available for pre-order.

https://www.logos.com/product/138244/evolution-and-the-fall

Thanks, Ben.  My pre-order has been placed.  I hope you'll post here again when Adam and the Genome is ready for pre-order.

Hi Rick,

Here you go! https://www.logos.com/product/138326/adam-and-the-genome-reading-scripture-after-genetic-science

Ben sir

I just found out about this book today and I think it would be a really good fit for Logos especially to balance out the last two books added under this topic.  It will be published by Crossway and comes out Nov 30 2017.  Please consider adding to Logos.

Theistic Evolution: A Scientific, Philosophical, and Theological Critique by JP Moreland, Stephen Meyer, Wayne Grudem and more.  ISBN 1433552868.  Amazon Link: www.amazon.com/dp/1433552868/

Thanks for pointing this out. We actually already have it in the queue. It should be up on pre-pub soon.

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