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mab | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017 11:06 AM

I'm not on the subscription plan, but just got an email about the Web App being available now. I'm quite impressed with it so far. Thank you so much FL! Geeked

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Patrick S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 12 2017 12:49 PM

Gives new meaning to the term "watching paint dry". Utterly unusable.

Performance might be OK for you in the US. I'm in Europe on a fairly good 120 Mbps Internet connection, but what I see is a lot of these:

ping time is about 200 ms. For major sites like Apple, Microsoft, Cisco using CDNs I get between 12 -14 ms, so nothing wrong with my Internet connection.

So, basically, useless (for me, anyone outside the US I suspect) at present.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 12 2017 1:31 PM

Patrick S.:
So, basically, useless (for me, anyone outside the US I suspect) at present.

It's usable for me - based in the UK. I do see some delay but not really a major problem.

I wonder if there are more regional issues - or something else causing this.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 12 2017 1:46 PM

VPN?

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 12 2017 3:57 PM

I have Comcast Cable. Vastly better than the Earthlink DSL I had. DSL is short for D...SLOW.

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David Schwegler (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 13 2017 12:00 PM

Would love to hear from more people around the world what their experience is like (which parts of the app are fast/slow, how long they take, and where the pain points are). We do have monitoring that can help us understand page speed from around the world, but nothing can replace actual user experiences. Thanks!

By the way, we have a forum for the web app, which might be more useful for specific discussion surrounding it.

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Patrick S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 16 2017 8:30 AM

David Schwegler (Faithlife):

Would love to hear from more people around the world what their experience is like (which parts of the app are fast/slow, how long they take, and where the pain points are). 

Doesn't work on Safari 10.0.3 on macOS Sierra, two machines iMac and MacBook Air.

On both machines the search, open Bible, open Bible & Study Bible, open Bible & Commentary show progress bar GIF endlessly. Also none of the links in the various cards work.

Basically nothing works.

I have Ghostery & 1Password extensions installed, if I disable both of them still the same — nothing works.

I have Firefox as secondary browser, tested that on same machines and the site does work in Firefox. Still slow though.

Performance wise, below is a trace route to the app.logos.com site, of course the web app also takes resources from a whole bunch of servers on the Internet, any one of which can on/off have performance issues and slow down the app.

Hop 5 is in the Amsterdam Internet Exchange (I am in the Netherlands), one of the largest exchanges in Europe and one of the main entry points for overseas cables to Europe (i.e. about as close as is going to get to a resource coming in from the West Coast of the US).

Hops 2 & 3 IP addresses removed intentionally.

Performance is going to be better in England because most undersea data cables from the US east coast hits landfall in the UK before Europe.

https://www.submarinecablemap.com

traceroute to app.logos.com (192.58.0.33), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  2.005 ms  0.475 ms  0.470 ms
2  xx.xx.xx.xx (xx.xx.xx.xx)  12.477 ms  9.971 ms  9.819 ms
3  xx.xx.xx.xx (xx.xx.xx.xx)  16.895 ms  10.954 ms  10.013 ms
4  nl-ams17b-rc1-lag-8-0.aorta.net (84.116.135.37)  13.869 ms  12.300 ms  18.030 ms
5  nl-ams14a-ri1-ae8-0.aorta.net (84.116.135.38)  13.933 ms  12.553 ms  14.758 ms
6  be3065.ccr41.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.14.1)  15.417 ms  13.266 ms  13.496 ms
7  be2182.ccr21.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.77.246)  25.891 ms  23.703 ms  22.531 ms
8  be3042.ccr21.ymq01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.162)  112.531 ms  113.811 ms  112.974 ms
9  be3259.ccr21.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.41.205)  128.008 ms  129.448 ms  129.758 ms
10  be2993.ccr21.cle04.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.31.225)  129.541 ms  130.581 ms  129.283 ms
11  be2717.ccr41.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.221)  130.684 ms  130.328 ms  129.643 ms
12  be2831.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.42.165)  143.448 ms  140.965 ms  141.509 ms
13  be3035.ccr21.den01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.89)  152.279 ms  159.127 ms  157.742 ms
14  be3037.ccr21.slc01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.41.145)  174.378 ms  173.659 ms  172.916 ms
15  be2085.ccr21.sea02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.197)  188.217 ms  187.748 ms  190.319 ms
16  38.104.126.58 (38.104.126.58)  184.900 ms  185.858 ms  192.827 ms
17  cr1-tuk2-t7-4.bb.spectrumnet.us (174.127.141.22)  238.057 ms
    cr1-tuk2-t7-1.bb.spectrumnet.us (174.127.141.18)  358.681 ms  235.328 ms
18  * * *
19  *^C

The Logos web app server is in a colocation in Seattle close to the Logos office?

OrgName:        vanoppen.biz LLC
OrgId:          VIS-47

Address:        C/O Spectrum Networks Operations
Address:        2200 6th AVE
Address:        Suite 905
City:           Seattle
StateProv:      WA
PostalCode:     98121
Country:        US

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 16 2017 8:46 AM

Hi Patrick

Where in Europe are you trying to run the app?

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Patrick S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 16 2017 8:55 AM

Graham Criddle:

Hi Patrick

Where in Europe are you trying to run the app?

Hi Graham - I was adding to my first reply as you were writing this. Pls see further info in my recent post.

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 16 2017 9:04 AM

Patrick

I am on Safari 10.1.1 and macOS Sierra with my 2015 MacBook Pro Retina.

It is very fast for me, I have a 4G LTE connection by telephone with 40Mbps. 

I am in Kyrgyzstan, i have no problems with any of the links working, everything loads up very fast.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jul 16 2017 9:25 AM

Patrick S.:

Graham Criddle:

Hi Patrick

Where in Europe are you trying to run the app?

Hi Graham - I was adding to my first reply as you were writing this. Pls see further info in my recent post.

Thanks Patrick

Looks very useful information.

Graham

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