Is anyone using the Logos iOS app on the new iPad Pro 10.5?

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Bill Moore | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Jul 26 2017 7:02 AM

I'm upgrading from my iPad Air and am trying to decide whether to spend the funds for the new iPad Pro 10.5 (256GB) or save a couple hundred dollars and buy the 2016 Pro 9.7 (128GB).

(Both iPads are the middle offerings in their respective iterations, but the storage is a bit of a non-factor to me. 128GB should be quite sufficient, but the 10.5 begins with 64GB, then 256GB and then 512GB.)

I was really wondering if the 20% additional screen estate in the 10.5 would make for a better Logos experience over the 9.7.

Any and all thoughts are appreciated.

Thanks.

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Michael McLane | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 26 2017 8:07 AM

I recently purchased the iPad Pro 10.5. I have no regrets. I used to have the iPad Air one. The ability to use multiple apps at the same time is awesome. I also got the 256 GB version. Which is probably more memory than I need. I could've used half that. My iPad Air also had 64 GB and that was plenty of room. But I also like to make sure I have room to grow.

I personally think the new iPad Pro 10.5 is a huge step up from the original iPad Air. I notice a difference in the screen resolution, the color, the brightness, and the ability to use multiple apps. More than anything is the quadrupling of memory. The old iPad Air seemed to take forever to reload Logos after I'd switch to another app and then back. My advice, get one! You won't regret it.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 26 2017 9:41 AM

Michael McLane:
I personally think the new iPad Pro 10.5 is a huge step up from the original iPad Air.

I have the smaller one, and for the purposes of Logos, would prefer it. 

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Bill Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 26 2017 9:55 AM

Michael McLane:

I recently purchased the iPad Pro 10.5. I have no regrets. I used to have the iPad Air one. The ability to use multiple apps at the same time is awesome. I also got the 256 GB version. Which is probably more memory than I need. I could've used half that. My iPad Air also had 64 GB and that was plenty of room. But I also like to make sure I have room to grow.

I personally think the new iPad Pro 10.5 is a huge step up from the original iPad Air. I notice a difference in the screen resolution, the color, the brightness, and the ability to use multiple apps. More than anything is the quadrupling of memory. The old iPad Air seemed to take forever to reload Logos after I'd switch to another app and then back. My advice, get one! You won't regret it.

I have no doubt it's a good one. I'm just wondering whether the 10.5 Pro is $200  better than the 9.7 Pro. I received delivery of a 128GB 9.7 Pro from Best Buy a few days ago for $499.99 plus sales tax, a good buy on a solid tablet. I haven't yet set it up yet, wanting to weigh carefully whether there would be a significant advantage to the 10.5.

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Steven Branson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 26 2017 9:56 AM

I have the 10.5 and it is worth the investment. Extra screen space is good and it is about the same size as previous iPads. I am also running the beta ios11 and it works well on the larger screen.

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Bill Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 26 2017 9:56 AM

alabama24:

Michael McLane:
I personally think the new iPad Pro 10.5 is a huge step up from the original iPad Air.

I have the smaller one, and for the purposes of Logos, would prefer it. 

Why would you prefer the 9.7 Pro, Alabama? Your answer could save me the aggravation of a return and $200. Smile

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 26 2017 10:10 AM

Bill Moore:
Why would you prefer the 9.7 Pro, Alabama?

I believe in the right tool for the right job. My 2¢: 

  • When I am simply reading (not taking notes), the size and screen of a Kindle Paperwhite is ideal. It is much better than an iPad for that task. 
  • When I am reading for study (highlighting, taking simple notes), the 9.7 iPad is ideal. It isn't too big, it isn't too small. Although the screen is not as ideal for simple reading (i.e. backlit), the ability to highlight within Logos is great. Its larger size isn't ideal for simple reading, but it is better for highlighting and notes. 
  • When I am reading/writing, my MacBook Pro is the right tool for the job. I need a real keyboard. I need a bigger screen. I need the advanced features of Logos. 

Under what circumstances would I purchase a larger iPad Pro (Logos related)? If I were preaching from it and wanted to have split screen in landscape mode. That is the ONLY reason. Personally, however, I would never do that. I don't "preach" regularly any more, but when I do I preach from notes. I don't want two apps open. Furthermore, I make a printout of my notes... just in case. 

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Aaron Sauer | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 26 2017 10:12 AM

Highly recommend the 10.5". The extra screen space is nice and it is just a wonderful overall tablet. It is now my main computer. Logos is one of my most used apps. I have also been using the web app for extra functionality. Looking forward to continued improvements to mobile device usability for both the Logos Reader App and the Web App. Kudos to the Logos team for all of the improvements!

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Bill Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 26 2017 10:27 AM

alabama24:

Bill Moore:
Why would you prefer the 9.7 Pro, Alabama?

I believe in the right tool for the right job. My 2¢: 

  • When I am simply reading (not taking notes), the size and screen of a Kindle Paperwhite is ideal. It is much better than an iPad for that task. 
  • When I am reading for study (highlighting, taking simple notes), the 9.7 iPad is ideal. It isn't too big, it isn't too small. Although the screen is not as ideal for simple reading (i.e. backlit), the ability to highlight within Logos is great. Its larger size isn't ideal for simple reading, but it is better for highlighting and notes. 
  • When I am reading/writing, my MacBook Pro is the right tool for the job. I need a real keyboard. I need a bigger screen. I need the advanced features of Logos. 

Under what circumstances would I purchase a larger iPad Pro (Logos related)? If I were preaching from it and wanted to have split screen in landscape mode. That is the ONLY reason. Personally, however, I would never do that. I don't "preach" regularly any more, but when I do I preach from notes. I don't want two apps open. Furthermore, I make a printout of my notes... just in case. 

Thanks. I use my 15" rMBP for most Logos study and print out my notes. I might be inclined to use the iOS app more with a larger screen, but I'm not interested really in the 12.9. 

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Bill Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 26 2017 12:44 PM

alabama24:

Bill Moore:
Why would you prefer the 9.7 Pro, Alabama?

I believe in the right tool for the right job. My 2¢: 

  • When I am simply reading (not taking notes), the size and screen of a Kindle Paperwhite is ideal. It is much better than an iPad for that task. 
  • When I am reading for study (highlighting, taking simple notes), the 9.7 iPad is ideal. It isn't too big, it isn't too small. Although the screen is not as ideal for simple reading (i.e. backlit), the ability to highlight within Logos is great. Its larger size isn't ideal for simple reading, but it is better for highlighting and notes. 
  • When I am reading/writing, my MacBook Pro is the right tool for the job. I need a real keyboard. I need a bigger screen. I need the advanced features of Logos. 

Under what circumstances would I purchase a larger iPad Pro (Logos related)? If I were preaching from it and wanted to have split screen in landscape mode. That is the ONLY reason. Personally, however, I would never do that. I don't "preach" regularly any more, but when I do I preach from notes. I don't want two apps open. Furthermore, I make a printout of my notes... just in case. 

The 10.5 iPad Pro is almost the same size as the 9.7. It is a little longer length wise, and just a wider in width. For all practical purposes, it is apples-apples swap for the 9.7 in terms of size and usability. It has double the RAM of the 9.7 iPad Pro and a better screen. The screen area is also larger than the 9.7, obviously. If you open Logos on the 10.5 in landscape mode and open two resources, you essentially have two windows the size of the iPad Mini. This makes the 10.5 better for side by side reading in Logos and split screen applications under iOS. If you are into the pencil, there are latency improvements there as well. The other important thing to consider when deciding between the 10.5 and 9.7 iPad Pros is that iOS 11 will run much better on the 10.5 due to the memory increase. iOS will have much improved multitasking which likely will run better on the 2017 iPad Pros (both the 12.9 and 10.5 have 4GB of RAM).

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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 27 2017 7:07 AM

I use the even larger iPad Pro (12.9") and I really enjoy the extra screen real estate for reading and not taking. It's especially helpful when splitting the screen, which I use to take notes as I read since taking notes within the mobile Logos app isn't a pleasant experience.

If you don't mind carrying a larger iPad, I think that the extra screen real estate will be useful. 

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Bill Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 15 2017 3:03 AM

Jacob Hantla:

I use the even larger iPad Pro (12.9") and I really enjoy the extra screen real estate for reading and not taking. It's especially helpful when splitting the screen, which I use to take notes as I read since taking notes within the mobile Logos app isn't a pleasant experience.

If you don't mind carrying a larger iPad, I think that the extra screen real estate will be useful. 

Thanks, Jacob. I'm coming around to the same conclusion. I'm planning to get a 12.9 and give it a whirl. Besides Logos/Vyrso, my 7th-decade eyes would like a larger screen for PDFs, particularly sheet music. I was just measuring a paperback text I'm reading. Opened, it would barely fit into a 12.9. A new hardback biography of Martin Luther on my desk wouldn't quite fit In the 12.9  

The portability quality doesn't mean so much to me. I consider my 15" MBP fairly portable, so a 12.9" iPad will be especially so. 

The 10.5 is a fine computer, bit doesn't quite give me enough size for PDFs. The 9.7 Pro is very good for one-handed holding, very handy, but I think Apple made a good move going to the 10.5. 

Jacob--do you use the Apple Smart Keyboard with your 12.9?

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Matt Zimmerman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 15 2017 7:28 AM

The 12.9 is great but in my opinion impractical for reading in bed reclined. It's awesome for split screen reading while taking notes via an attached keyboard. But as a pure reader the 10.5 or 9.7 edges it out imho.

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Bill Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 15 2017 9:28 AM

Matt Zimmerman:

The 12.9 is great but in my opinion impractical for reading in bed reclined. It's awesome for split screen reading while taking notes via an attached keyboard. But as a pure reader the 10.5 or 9.7 edges it out imho.

You're probably right about reading in bed, but the 10.5 or 9.7 are quite large enough for PDFs, at least to my eyes. I guess that's why some buy both one of the mid sizes and the 12.9.

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Bill Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 19 2017 8:48 PM

I just read my post above and saw that I left out "not," as in the 9.7 and the 10.5 are not quite large enough for PDFs. So . . . I bought a 12.9, but for my usage, especially having a retinue MacBook Pro, the 12.9 was great for PDFs but too much of a good thing, as far as screen size goes.

I returned the 12.9 and bought a 10.5 and am typing this not on the attached Apple Smart Keyboard.

I appreciate everyone input.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 21 2017 12:58 AM

Hi Bill

Just to add to the conversation -- I found that with my iPad pro I could use the keyboard from my iMac as a bluetooth attachment for the ipad

Seeing as I am unlikely to be substantially typing on both at the same time - I can make use of the keyboard on both devices. Mac Keyboards are quite light and can be carried around in a simple bubble wrap bag.

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Bill Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 21 2017 6:23 AM

Thanks, Mike. That sounds like a good idea. 

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For what it's worth, Mike: the new iPad Pro will be the platform of choice for app makers who are developing interesting "augmented reality" experiences on phones and mobile devices. The refresh rate, computing power, and screen quality combined with Apple's new "ARKit"-- I think we'll see lots of companies coming out with interesting experiences. Google "ARKit demo" for some cool examples. 

Just another reason to consider the new iPad Pro. 

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Josh moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 20 2017 9:10 PM

Daniel Di Bartolo:

For what it's worth, Mike: the new iPad Pro will be the platform of choice for app makers who are developing interesting "augmented reality" experiences on phones and mobile devices. The refresh rate, computing power, and screen quality combined with Apple's new "ARKit"-- I think we'll see lots of companies coming out with interesting experiences. Google "ARKit demo" for some cool examples. 

Just another reason to consider the new iPad Pro. 

sure would be a useful feature for the Logos Bible app

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 21 2017 4:16 AM

How so?

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