Search Help: Divine Commands in Revelation

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Aug 30 2017 8:09 AM

I have a friend who is teaching on Revelation.  He does not own Logos.  He recently asked me if Logos can show him all the results of divine imperative/commands in Revelation.  I assumed it can, but am having difficulty figuring the correct search.  So far, I have just done a morphology search for all the imperatives.

But:

1. it does not differentiate WHO is making the command (God or others?)

2. are there not ways to "command" without necessarily using imperatival form? (it's been a long time since I used Greek)

I know you can identify "speaker" in logos. I know you can do searches for various parts of speech.  Bu I can't seem to put the two together.  Any smart people out there with time to help figure this out? thanks!

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 30 2017 9:59 AM

Friedrich:
He recently asked me if Logos can show him all the results of divine imperative/commands in Revelation.

One search is an intersection of Speaker and Propositional Outlines

({Section <PropositionalOutline = Command (Neg.)>}, {Section <PropositionalOutline = Mandate (Neg.)>}, {Section <PropositionalOutline = Mandate>}, {Section <PropositionalOutline = Command>}) INTERSECTS ({Speaker <Person God>},{Speaker <Person Jesus>})

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Jimmy Parks | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 30 2017 10:34 AM

You can use Bible Browser to make this query easily using the reported speech data (Speaker) and the Speech Act Type (Obligative: Directive) 

You can choose whichever speaker you want from the labeled speaker data (God, Jesus, Holy Spirt, or combine all three). 

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 31 2017 7:13 AM

wow, cool! I will paste that into my Logos and check it.  Kind of a hefty search command. At this point I never would have figured that out.  Looking at it, I wonder if I added "Holy Spirit" to the final intersection speakers string if that would add any.  Also wondering what you do about when God speaks through another agent.  if He does so (such as an angel).  Just curious.  Haven't really looked closely at that,and I am not asking you to do so.  Thanks!

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 31 2017 7:27 AM

Jimmy Parks:
You can choose whichever speaker you want from the labeled speaker data (God, Jesus, Holy Spirt, or combine all three).

Never used BB, but this looks promising, and "easy!"  Except that right now, not sure how to add all three.  As soon as I choose "speaker--Jesus" the "Speaker" choices vanish.  Weird.  I'm sure there is a way and I will look at it later when I am not working. Once I learn the mechanics, this will be very helpful for overall study. Thanks for the tip!  

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 31 2017 7:50 AM

Friedrich:
Also wondering what you do about when God speaks through another agent.  if He does so (such as an angel).

Thankful for OR in search having different colors in results so have expanded Search for more Speakers

({Speaker <Person God>} OR {Speaker <Person Jesus>} OR {Speaker <Person Holy Spirit>} OR {Speaker <Person An Angel>} OR {Speaker <Person Gabriel>}) INTERSECTS ({Section <PropositionalOutline = Command (Neg.)>}, {Section <PropositionalOutline = Mandate (Neg.)>}, {Section <PropositionalOutline = Mandate>}, {Section <PropositionalOutline = Command>})

Holy Spirit speaking through people is more challenging to find: e.g. Elizabeth in Luke 1.

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 31 2017 3:40 PM

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