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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 7 2017 11:48 AM

Giovanni Segar:

Matthew:

I have seen Apple mentioned several times on this thread and am confused. Are all the wonderful changes that are being discussed only available on Apple devices? If so, I would assume Android support will follow at some point?

Yes, Android is coming soon. The final release will be simultaneous with iOS. We're just ahead on iOS. 

Will there be a VerbumNext released simultaneously as well?

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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 7 2017 11:49 AM

I see, that works. Thanks Myke!

Peter

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Andrew116 | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 7 2017 2:05 PM

Fredc:

In addition to the current search function, provide a search command within an open bible or resource (not in a new screen tab) that will enable a user to search within that resource whether online or offline. I understand that offline searches would be dependent on the resource being downloaded to the device.

yes!

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 7 2017 11:48 PM

There seems to be a bug. Every time I start or stop reading On a reading plan, Logos is creating a new tab. 

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 8 2017 12:13 AM

Others have touched on it, but it's worth highlighting. The UI trigger is too sensitive. When scrolling down, you only need a tiny movement up when you release your finger to trigger the UI. It happens to me about one scroll in three. I've turned off scrolling mode as a consequence. 

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 8 2017 12:17 AM

I would appreciate more margin around the text, particularly top and bottom. I like that Kindle allows you to select margin size. 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 8 2017 1:33 AM

Mark Barnes:

There seems to be a bug. Every time I start or stop reading On a reading plan, Logos is creating a new tab. 

Hi Mark

i flagged this at https://community.logos.com/forums/t/148126.aspx and there are some thoughts on it there

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Myke Harbuck | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 8 2017 5:26 AM

James McAdams:

One issue I keep having - when using the text comparison tool, it will generally load up to requested verse, but after a second or two (without any interaction from me) it will jump back several verses.

So just now, I typed in the reference for Genesis 32:20, and it displays those verses for under two seconds before it scrolls up to Genesis 32:7.

This happens consistently, regardless of which collection I compare, or whether I type the passage manually or open the guide to a reference from the bible verse context menu.

I cannot get an OT passage to even appear. Mine is stuck on Luke 23:36. Typing in the reference does noting, nor does using the book,chapter, verse selection tool. In either case, it reverts back to Luke 23:36. Once I try to scroll the comparison window, it then jumps back 10 verses or so.

Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College
Mac OS 10.13.6 High Sierra, Mid 2015 iMac, 2.5GHz i7, 32 gbRAM, 1tbSSD

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Myke Harbuck | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 8 2017 5:35 AM

Daniel Di Bartolo:

It's "the Bible" button. A common complaint we here about the current app is that it's difficult to make your way back to the Bible. That button with 1.) Open your preferred Bible in a new tab (if it isn't open) OR 2.) Open the last used instance of your preferred Bible.

Could you guys explore long-press options for this button. Perhaps a short press opens as you have indicated, but a long press would pop up a menu of a few selected favorites or would open a pres-selected function (like word study).

Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College
Mac OS 10.13.6 High Sierra, Mid 2015 iMac, 2.5GHz i7, 32 gbRAM, 1tbSSD

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Randy W. Sims | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 8 2017 5:50 AM

Phil Miller:
While the library icon (on the bottom) is great for quickly opening a resource in a new tab, it would still be nice to tap on the book name at the top of the window to change the resource of the current tab (already at the desired reference)

Yes, It would be very helpful to have a Parallel Resources type feature that works when you tap the title or otherwise accessed. Ideal would be to show resources that have the same ref but It would be very helpful if it just showed resources of the same Type. IE. tap the title of your current bible and get a list of all bibles, ditto with commentaries. 

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Myke Harbuck | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 8 2017 6:00 AM

Mark Barnes:

I really like the idea of the blue button, but I don't think the icon is right. It feels like tapping the Logos logo should take you to the home page, not your Bible. I'd prefer a simple Bible icon (perhaps the cover of your preferred Bible, or a standard cover with the short title, such as NIV)

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This sound like a good idea. Make the Bible icon the home page link, and then have a greyed bible icon to go to the last Bible (or whatever the current Bible icon functionality is). It think that would be the more naturally expected behavior of the Bible icon to go to the home page with a single click, and then provide access to a few favorites with long-press.

Myke Harbuck
Lead Pastor, www.ByronCity.Church
Adjunct Professor, Georgia Military College
Mac OS 10.13.6 High Sierra, Mid 2015 iMac, 2.5GHz i7, 32 gbRAM, 1tbSSD

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Randy W. Sims | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 8 2017 6:46 AM

I think it's been mentioned quite a few times, but I definitely agree that Opening a New Tab is too often the default action and needs to be re-evaluated throughout. In many cases both options are useful and desirable; I'm just not sure the default should always be open in another tab.

Some ways were both options could be available.

Tap Menu -> History -> Tap a selection open in current tab, while going to Tab Manager, tapping PLUS, could (and should) present a History option to open in a new tab.

Tapping Library could open a resource in same tab, and as alluded to by Myke a few posts above, Long pressing Library could open it in a new tab.

Similary, as Myke mentions, tapping the Bible and Long pressing should have actions. Current tapping when you are already at your bible does nothing. It could open verse picker/recent in the current tab and long pressing could open in a new tab. There are probably other options that could validly be pulled up there but those stand out.

Another thing that comes up with the tabs being created so often is that I very very often want a Close this Resource and take me Back to where it was create from. For example, Opening a Passage Guide, clicking a commentary will take me to a new tab. It seems a reasonable and common option would be to close this and take me back. This could be what that irritating Back button that does nothing can be employed for. On the other hand some might find it irritating if they press back too many times and the tab closes out from under them...

EDIT: A simple Close this Tab button would be nice too for tabs where there is no where to go back to as above. It takes 3 movements using tab manager.

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Randy W. Sims | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 8 2017 10:13 AM

Mark Barnes:

Others have touched on it, but it's worth highlighting. The UI trigger is too sensitive. When scrolling down, you only need a tiny movement up when you release your finger to trigger the UI. It happens to me about one scroll in three. I've turned off scrolling mode as a consequence. 

Safari does this slightly different and I wonder how much difference it would make for others. Safari doesn’t open the UI until after you release AND there is still momentum, whereas Logos is opening as soon as your finger starts moving. Safari method generally feels right to me. You don’t have to see the UI when scrolling up if you don’t need it; you just release when the page is still.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 8 2017 10:28 AM

Don't know if this has been reported—haven't seen it.

Copied some text from a commentary and pasted it into a new note. The copied text appeared, but with no bibliographic information and no link back to the source of the pasted text. I am spoiled by the way notes work elsewhere Stick out tongue

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Randy W. Sims | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 8 2017 10:35 AM

Daniel Di Bartolo:

Mark Barnes:
Because the UI only comes up when you scroll down (not if you scroll up), it's hard to get the UI to appear when you're at the beginning of the resource.

Also a known issue. We're addressing this.

Similarly at the end. The UI pops up and you can’t see and interact with the final lines. The UI should come up here, but we need an inflated margin at the end so we can read the final lines. I noticed this in the Passage Guide.

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Mark Barnes:
Others have touched on it, but it's worth highlighting. The UI trigger is too sensitive. When scrolling down, you only need a tiny movement up when you release your finger to trigger the UI. It happens to me about one scroll in three. I've turned off scrolling mode as a consequence.

Lots of people mentioning this. The sensitivity is something we're working to improve. It's tricky to get it right! We want you to see it when you need it and and not see it when you don't. :)

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Andrew116 | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 8 2017 3:45 PM

Daniel Di Bartolo:

Mark Barnes:
Others have touched on it, but it's worth highlighting. The UI trigger is too sensitive. When scrolling down, you only need a tiny movement up when you release your finger to trigger the UI. It happens to me about one scroll in three. I've turned off scrolling mode as a consequence.

Lots of people mentioning this. The sensitivity is something we're working to improve. It's tricky to get it right! We want you to see it when you need it and and not see it when you don't. :)

on this issue, I like the way the current Logos iphone app handles it. With "always show the tab bar" turned off, the bar is hidden when scrolling up and down. But a quick tap in a pane makes it appear. In other words, in the new version, if you just took away the "appear on scoll down" (leaving "appear on tap" Ithink it would be solved 

Aside from that I prefer the look of the new app a lot more than the old one. Much cleaner

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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 8 2017 9:07 PM

I'm trying the new app on an iPad mini.

Maybe I'm still getting used to the new panels concept, but how do you accomplish the following use case?

- Having a split window, with Bible passage on the left, and either a commentary window or Passage Guide on the right; being able to read through different commentaries linked to the Bible passage by utilizing the commentaries list from the Passage Guide.

Seems like a very common use case (at least for me), but couldn't really figure out the specific steps and windows / panels to open to accomplish this. Either I'm slow or the multi-panel interface still has room for improvement.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Peter

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 8 2017 10:08 PM

PL:
Having a split window

  • Open the "tabs" menu.
  • Tap the "two panels" icon (looks like equal sign)
  • Click on the new panel and open book you want to use. 

If you are wanting to open a commentary from the passage guide into the second panel... you are out of luck, at least for now. The current behavior for EVERYTHING is to open a new tab. As has been mentioned elsewhere, this is true for things like reading plans. I <think> it would be considered an "unimplemented feature" at present. Hopefully it will be corrected before the app ships. 

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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 9 2017 5:48 AM

Thanks Alabama.

Faithlife - Please address this very common use case, being able to pursue different commentaries relevant to a given Bible passage.

While you're redesigning the mobile apps, can you also improve the Table of Contents function? Please make it more like the desktop version: you can see the TOC side by side with the book content so you can easily explore a book's content, and by default the  TOC tree opens to and highlights the current location.

Peter 

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