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Bill | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 21 2017 6:30 PM

Also thanks everyone above for these suggestions, I totally agree Yes:

  •  #1 Improved Notes Feature, including the ability to import notes from external sources such as OneNote and others
  • Notes MUST be able to include images and tables and have easy internote hyperlinks and fully sync
  • nested folders in the library
  • SPEED - like a real, normal Windows app
  • SEARCH - dummy-proof, everybody-can-use Search that intelligently taps into the wonderful data tagging FL has been doing all these years, without forcing us to learn about nitty-gritty details of sausage-making
  • Can we have Jewish base packages in Logos BS
  • Messianic Starter Base Package
  • How about a Mobile Ed package or a monthly plan that allows the subscriber to choose which courses to take
  • Scrolling ability in popup windows instead of just truncated text or instead of having having to open the resource to read more 
  • nfo window i=with intelligence .. if I click on a word, looking for a definition, I would expect the info window to notice that some like an article that simply says 'see xxx' is not helpful ... either follow the link or choose the next resource ... anything less than say 5 words should be ignored as a definition.
  • back to tagging ... the ability to switch off library refresh whilst editing tags ... for speed reasons and for preventing resources from diappering with half formed tags etc.
  • the ability to enter comments directly onto highlighted text; instead of the notes file; and view those comments when hovering over the highlight, ala "footnotes".
  • Reading plans fully customisable with repetition (e.g. easy setup for reading a 'church of Revelation' each day of week and automatically repeating, or Ephesians 6 every day etc)

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Bill | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 21 2017 6:38 PM

Oh and I forgot this one, The ability to add a comment or review of each resource in the library (possibly beneath the star rating).

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Martin Folley | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 21 2017 6:58 PM

... and the facility to disable all 'community' comments ... across all platforms ... 

Thanks.

2010 17" MBP with High Sierra, iPad4 with iOS10.

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Michael McLane | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 21 2017 7:06 PM

I would like it to not destroy my battery life.

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/148290/921537.aspx#921537 

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Martin Folley | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 21 2017 11:27 PM

Unlink resource display settings from a resource level and attch it to an instance level, i.e. to the panel.

e.g. I am working with a bible, study bible and commentary in a single panel with multiple resources. At another time, I open that bible, it also seems to open the other two resources, even though I am in a different session, and a different layout, and the panel is too small to accommodate three resources.

e.g I have different zoom levels for certain resources in a layout dependent on whether they're the main object of study. 

e.g. In one workflow/layout I want the interlinears, visual filters et. al; in another I simply want the bible.

2010 17" MBP with High Sierra, iPad4 with iOS10.

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Martin Folley | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 21 2017 11:29 PM

This may have already changed ... I cannot check it at the moment.

Shortcuts to layouts should link automatically to the latest version of that layout, and follow even if the layout is renamed. Currently, the short cuts link to a specific instance of a layout.

2010 17" MBP with High Sierra, iPad4 with iOS10.

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Shawn Franklin | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 22 2017 12:01 AM
  • Typing updates in the Sermon Writer (Use Command + Arrows to navigate)
  • Give back the ability to insert slide breaks within the Sermon
  • When using User Uploaded media, allow it to be applied to all slides at once
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Bernhard | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 22 2017 1:44 AM
  • Better touch support for Windows version
  • Improvements for notes. I'm glad that things are already worked on for this. Please include support for custom sort inside a notebook that can be saved. Also, think about ways to make it easier to structure an extensive topic that I am working on using notes (which is not a sermon or similar).  Please, also provide a way to import notes!
  • Personal Books on mobile and web (I'm happy for this to be a paid upgrade through an in-app purchase or similar)
  • Filters/sort for library screen on mobile (for example to easily see my Bibles only without having to remember a command to type)
  • Offline word studies on mobile or at least lookup in dictionaries in my library

Thanks for asking!

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 22 2017 3:19 AM

I have another one: Ability to turn interlinear on and off on the mobile app. Accordance has a feature called "Dynamic Interlinear," and you can turn it on and off. You can even choose what you want the interlinear to display like we do in the Logos desktop app.

DAL

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 22 2017 6:10 AM
  • For Logos to expand its use beyond the Pastor, scholar, improve the Faithlife Assistannt. I am thinking with the Artificial Intelligence of Siri. (This is a work for many years) With the extensive tagging that is in Logos, I would like to speak and have the software understand that I want to know:
  • Who is the strongest man in the Bible?
  • Who is the oldest man that ever lived?
  • Peter walked on water. (List the passages where it is found in order of relevance)
  • "Five loaves and two fishes" The software should automatically list the passage.

Keep working on AI. It is the future.

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 22 2017 6:49 AM

Wild Eagle:
Phil, please take away from windows developers mouse and let them use touch screen only for few hours/days. Let them do Bible study, highlighting and etc. Then they would instantly know how Logos compatibility is limited to touch screen. Lets face reality, touch screen is a high demand among windows users and it is still on the rise. 

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 22 2017 9:17 AM

Atlas Maps

  • I second Veli Voiopio's suggestion: "User-friendly vector map system, with links directly from the text."
  • I second James McAdams suggestion: "A much more open Atlas - choosing our own layers, ability to save view, add labels/arrows/symbols etc - with image export options, of course."
  • I second Mattillo's suggestion: "I would like the Atlas tool to be updated and have all of the components shipped.  This is still lagging from L6."

Library Drop-down Window

Either let the user size the window and have Logos remember it -OR- add a preference setting for the drop-down size to be maximized.

Window Size and Scrolling of Scripture Passages When Hovering over LInks in Resources

When a scripture passage pop-up window is displayed as a result of the user hovering the cursor over a passage link in a resource, either make the window size large enough to display the entire passage -OR- make the window scrollable.  There are many, many, many times that there is plenty of room on the screen to make the pop-up window large enough to display the entire passage, but the pop-up window size displayed is too small to do that, requiring the user to then click on the passage link which transfers control to a Bible resource (often in a different pane), then requiring the user to transfer control back to the main resource in order to resume reading/studying that resource.  Such an unnecessary waste of time.

Notes

Provide the ability to easily select multiple notes to be moved from one note file to another.

Hiding/Un-Hiding Resources

Provide the ability to select multiple resources to be hidden AND unhidden.

Undo

Add an Undo Button

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 22 2017 10:16 AM

I wasn't totally sold on the books in the various packages this time around.

I want to see integration of the theology and denomination tags project.

Some of the more complicated searches are great, but I'd like to see them be a little more accessible (without muting their power).

maybe a syntax search wizard? but allow those whove learned the ropes now to continue to be able to search manually. let the wizard populate the search box so we can see how the wizard constructed the search for us.

I've mentioned this before, but I think it would fit with other peoples requests RE battery life.
I'd like to see the ability to switch logos into one of several modes: performance mode (for people with beefy desktops) or normal mode (as it performs now) or a battery saver mode that uses less system resources, maybe automatically delays indexing - whatever you would need to do to lower the battery drain or increase the demand on the system.

Was there ever an easy to way to make a resource (pb builder? sermon builder idk) that had embedded in it audio/video sermons linked from the internet, or the local machine.








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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 22 2017 1:51 PM

Rick Ausdahl:

Library Drop-down Window

Either let the user size the window and have Logos remember it -OR- add a preference setting for the drop-down size to be maximized.

Window Size and Scrolling of Scripture Passages When Hovering over LInks in Resources

When a scripture passage pop-up window is displayed as a result of the user hovering the cursor over a passage link in a resource, either make the window size large enough to display the entire passage -OR- make the window scrollable.  There are many, many, many times that there is plenty of room on the screen to make the pop-up window large enough to display the entire passage, but the pop-up window size displayed is too small to do that, requiring the user to then click on the passage link which transfers control to a Bible resource (often in a different pane), then requiring the user to transfer control back to the main resource in order to resume reading/studying that resource.  Such an unnecessary waste of time.

Notes

Provide the ability to easily select multiple notes to be moved from one note file to another.

i fully concur on these

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EastTN | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 22 2017 2:49 PM

mike:

  1. Pdf, Epub, Mobi reader

I would like to endorse this one.  It would be enormously helpful if Logos 8 could read and do a very basic dumb search on the various pdf, epub and Word files we all inevitably collect. I'm not talking about linking, tagging or indexing - just a basic ability to read and search for a text string. Just being able to do a single search that shows hits in these other files and allows me to open and read them would bring me a lot closer to having "one stop shopping" in Logos for my research.

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Randy W. Sims | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 22 2017 9:13 PM

Late to the party and totally random...

I'd like to see a minor UI refresh, along the top to freshen it up a bit. I'd still love to see the Tool menu divided as it's getting large. And of course the Toolbar: Multiple bars that can be turned on and off (depending on device), changing the spacing, custom icons, dividers, etc. I should have it look the way I want it to look on my PC, my Tablet, or on the Web App.

More user settings for display. Color schemes for tool windows vs resource windows.

I wouldn't mind a refresh on Logos.com PDPs. I'm a bit jealous of all the whitespace on Verbum.com.

Fix reading plans, esp TOC breaks, and At Your Own Pace. Phil's comments here and here.

Dynamic linking in resources. When resources are created, store metadata that can be used to link to reference works. Some of those links can be resolved when compiling the book, other can be resolved on the users system as the resource is drawn, if the linked resource has become available and is installed. You're already doing some of the work already, I believe. This way Faithlife only has to touch the resource once for links, no need to do periodic updates. This was discussed a few years ago but I can't find the link.

Better handling of images/media in resources. Better quality images when available. Zooming, Copying, Printing.

Maps/Atlas. See Accordance! Layers. Multiple Layers. Detailed control over what is shown/hidden. Place names I can click on for more information. This has been talked about all over the place. See Accordance for how to do this. There's may not be as pretty and the UI lousy, but they have the features right and that is the most important part.

Mobile Offline. Seriously! Simple word studies, Passage guides or a parallel resources option so I can switch through commentaries on a given reference, or dictionaries for a given headword, etc. Simple Text Comparison. Simple search within resource, eg Show me all verses that contain the word xxx. Maybe topical lookup. These are features I use or would use all the time (mostly done in Accordance app at the moment!)

Keep working on Faithlife Assistant. More inline responses because often want just a quick answer and because inline responses will make it more portable to bring to the Web App & Mobile. Would love to hear a better (and distinctive) speech engine.

Library browser. Faceted browser. Include collections for convenience and for organization. Let resources that contain multiple titles have those titles listed in the library and be filterable by those titles--It's a pain to find books that are contained in huge collections. At least on the web app it might be interesting to flip a switch and browse the entire Faithlife catalog or at least it might make both product browsers a little better.

Allow searches to search the entire Faithlife catalog. Sell me some book!

Touch UI. There was a time when I thought this would have been a game changer. If done excessively well, I thought it would cause people to throw away there iPads and Android tablets and rob every Surface Pro for the store shelves. I don't know if that momentum is there any more and doubt to see Faithlife take Touch to the level needed, but there are enough of us I think to warrant some improvements in this area. Maybe a time to do a general review of your UI Controls/Widgets and improve the experience for touch users and improve accessibility as there are problems with screen readers & onscreen keyboard. I was going to say something about making controls more consistent across the application but it looks like this has improved a great deal now that I take a look. There are still inconsistencies like the filter boxes sometimes having a round progress bar, sometimes a dotted line progress bar, and sometimes just fading out and back. Maybe lumping all these together will make it a more profitable review.

Search. I think it would be cool if there were a little white board and a toolbar of function and operator widgets. Grab a function like Sense, and drop it on the white board. The white board organizes what's dropped on it. NO Freehand. Dropping the widgets on the whiteboard gives the user an object with a series of properties that can be edited. For sense, there is a list of all senses that can be filtered to find the appropriate one. Some widgets might have special functions that make it easier to make modifications to that term/widget. For sense there might be an up arrow button that selects the parent sense of the currently selected sense and an ellipsis button that brings up a list of child senses for review or selection. Every widget can show a preview of the results of that search term in isolation.

Next, we can click on an operator and combine search terms together into an expression. Again the operator widget will allow a preview to be seen of the two terms combined by the operator. Make it easy to change operators so users are encouraged to experiment with operators to see the difference in the results. 

To control complexity, allow selecting of an expression so that all terms/subterms are grouped together, hidden in a black box, and given a name. That will simplify the expression for viewing, and possibly allow a means of sharing these black box search snippets(???). 

Searching is still complex. But this aides with syntax, organization, and allow partial evaluations to see where the search is working and where it isn't.

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I love Logos Now and the updates it brings, but please have a few surprises for L8. 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 22 2017 9:19 PM

Desktop Dreams:

  • Contextual pop-up customization of Right and Left Hand sides: similar to Guides that allows section order to be rearranged as desired so dreaming of "My Contextual Right" and "My Contextual Left" guides with templates that could be edited. Guide metaphor has sections that appear when appropriate. Currently contextual pop-up has applicable sections shown in alphabetical order all the time.
  • My Visual Filter guide so could rearrange order of Menu Sections. Also would appreciate option for default check OR not for each section: e.g. typically not use Passage List so prefer unchecked and collapsed.
  • Search builder that highlights unrecognized term(s): e.g. missing parenthesis. Ideally with option to enable OR disable automatic completion.
  • Search term browser with range of valid values. Many resources have their own data type, which can be challenging to build search for various section(s). Another example is labels and sections having many values. At times would like a Concordance capability for search values that shows how many for a particular value, ideally with option to enable OR disable count as desired.
  • Library priorization assistant so can enter a data value that shows resources with that value in priority order.
  • Library option to resize column for prioritisation so can read more of the title/series.
  • Library prioritization option to collapse/expand advanced priorities as desired. Currently advanced always shows many lines.
  • Resource information to show Subject Metadata plus some attributes (e.g. Interlinear) that are currently not shown => [request] Bradley: Please expose the 'traits' column in collections
  • User note field for Resources that is visible in Information, which could have comments about title modifications, plagiarism warnings, ...
  • Some Color Theme customization => Low light or night modes? => User Voice Suggestion ? Add Themes to personalize colors/colours ?
  • Morph Query that can be used offline.
  • Quick way to turn off Visual Filters when opening a Bible resource (possibly open resource with key to disable visual filters). If Visual Filters is checked, then application automatically searches and applies them so trying to show Visual Filter menu can wait on searches being done.

FYI: a quick way to improve performance is avoiding unneeded effort. For example, at times want to see everything that Contextual menu can show. At other times only desire useful subset. For example, personally not use Literary Typing, Genre tagging, Send to Proclaim, Share, .. so would appreciate Guide like option to not show them (or place more useful sections above them). Guides have performance option of section being closed, which would be helpful for contextual sections too.

Desktop Annoyances:

FYI: am liking year prefix with author for Bible Commentaries, Bible Notes, Encyclopaedias, Lexicons, and Monographs (with Bible Index) => https://community.logos.com/forums/p/139386/890581.aspx#890581 Found a commentary series that had over 100 years between first and last volume.

Mobile:

Keep Smiling Smile

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Martin Folley | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 22 2017 11:57 PM

When new resources are downloaded onto the desktop machine, the mobile device tickboxes should be available at the same time (assuming that they compatible). Currently, for some reason, it is not possible to put a new resource onto a device from the desktop. My workflow is to preview and tag new resources as they come in ... and to decide if I would like them to be accessible via mobile.

Thanks.

2010 17" MBP with High Sierra, iPad4 with iOS10.

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James Haak | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 23 2017 2:31 AM

Phil:

the thing that I find frustrates me the most about Logos is not the features, but the speed. I use Logos constantly, and I love the cast array of features that are available to me. I love the way in which the text is tagged in so many different ways and I have learned many things by following links on the Right Click menu. Yet the thing that frustrates me is always speed. Changing between layouts and waiting for search results to appear can take a long time. I have many books and I know that contributes to the speed issue, but surely there are ways in which Logos can be optimized to enhance is speed. Another bugbear is loading and closing. If my files have been at closing, why does it take so long to open them.

Other programs I own also use cloud solutions, but find ways to speed things up, surely Logos can do the same.

Many thanks,

James

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 23 2017 6:09 AM

James Haak:

Phil:

the thing that I find frustrates me the most about Logos is not the features, but the speed. I use Logos constantly, and I love the cast array of features that are available to me. I love the way in which the text is tagged in so many different ways and I have learned many things by following links on the Right Click menu. Yet the thing that frustrates me is always speed. Changing between layouts and waiting for search results to appear can take a long time. I have many books and I know that contributes to the speed issue, but surely there are ways in which Logos can be optimized to enhance is speed. Another bugbear is loading and closing. If my files have been at closing, why does it take so long to open them.

Other programs I own also use cloud solutions, but find ways to speed things up, surely Logos can do the same.

Many thanks,

James

During Irma if Logos had been more dependent upon the cloud i would not have been able to use it to prepare a sermon.

I don't know what computer you have, but when I notice my computer running slow with Logos I know its time to upgrade it.

Even with (feels like) a million collections my current computer is pretty fast.

I can't expect to drive a Porsche with a motorcycle engine and win any races.

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