Any word on NETS yet?
So what is the date for the NETS on Logos 4? ;-)
That would be a great addition to have. Sign me up for the Pre-pub.
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Seems I missed to vote for this.
"The Christian way of life isn't so much an assignment to be performed, as a gift to be received." Wilfrid Stinissen
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I'd like to add my vote for NETS, especially with a reverse interlinear.
Rob Lloyd: I'd like to add my vote for NETS, especially with a reverse interlinear.
Realizing that it isn't the same as having a Logos edition, you can download PDF files of the translation which might serve temporarily here
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/nets/edition/
georgegfsomsel
יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
George Somsel: Rob Lloyd: I'd like to add my vote for NETS, especially with a reverse interlinear. Realizing that it isn't the same as having a Logos edition, you can download PDF files of the translation which might serve temporarily here http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/nets/edition/
George! *smile*
Thank you for that link! It's a great site and will be of significance to me until Logos has it in our preferred format - the Logos Edition!
Peace! And Joy, George!
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
James W Bennett: There is also the St Athanasius Academy Septuagint by the St Athanasius Academy of Orthodox Theology. Thomas Nelson publishes the translation in the Orthodox Study Bible.
There is also the St Athanasius Academy Septuagint by the St Athanasius Academy of Orthodox Theology. Thomas Nelson publishes the translation in the Orthodox Study Bible.
The Thomas Nelson Orthodox Study Bible is a flawed LXX translation. See the many reviews/critiques of it on the Internet. E.g., Psalm 22 (Ps. 23 English) conforms to the Masoretic Text, not the Old Greek text, when it reads "The Lord is my shepherd" instead of "The Lord shepherds me" (the Hebrew could be read either way, but the LXX translators chose to make it a verb) and "You anoint my head with oil; My cup runs over." instead of "You anointed my head with oil, and your cup intoxicates as the most excellent [wine?]."
Optimistically Egalitarian (Galatians 3:28)
Eric Weiss: James W Bennett: There is also the St Athanasius Academy Septuagint by the St Athanasius Academy of Orthodox Theology. Thomas Nelson publishes the translation in the Orthodox Study Bible. The Thomas Nelson Orthodox Study Bible is a flawed LXX translation. See the many reviews/critiques of it on the Internet. E.g., Psalm 22 (Ps. 23 English) conforms to the Masoretic Text, not the Old Greek text, when it reads "The Lord is my shepherd" instead of "The Lord shepherds me" (the Hebrew could be read either way, but the LXX translators chose to make it a verb) and "You anoint my head with oil; My cup runs over." instead of "You anointed my head with oil, and your cup intoxicates as the most excellent [wine?]."
Interesting. I never bothered to read the LXX version of Ps 23 since I only do that when I have a particular reason to compare the MT with the LXX (and I never had one), but you are correct. Someone was asleep to let that slip through.
Any news yet?
I vote yes too
I emailed suggest@logos.com about it, including this thread to prove there's been a lot of interest in it for at least 18 months now... what else can be done to encourage them?
Alex ... appreciate your extra effort.
Maybe we need to sponsor a bus to the University of Pennsylvania.
We could bring along our Olivetree phones and read NETS on the way!
Maybe have a birthday cake on November 17th to celebrate NETS's 4 year anniversary. Almost ready for 1st grade!
I wonder if this one was one Logos hinted they were having trouble with. It's too obvious for Logos not to have been working it.
"God will save his fallen angels and their broken wings He'll mend."
I've also just added it to their suggestion queue, please put 3 votes on it, and it might actually get noticed
http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/2351260-add-new-english-translation-of-the-septuagint-net
Alex Smith: I've also just added it to their suggestion queue, please put 3 votes on it, and it might actually get noticed http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/2351260-add-new-english-translation-of-the-septuagint-net
First: welcome to the forums, since no one said that after your first post.
Uservoice is for features, not books. Logos can decide how to spend developers' time based on votes, because they employ those developers. They can't decide what books to publish based on votes, because they don't own the rights to those books. If the copyright holder says no, it doesn't matter if you've gathered a million votes. Logos still can't produce it. So all your suggestion is doing really is to take votes away from other suggestions, where they might have had an influence.
It's also probably the least likely place for your suggestion to be noticed. I doubt that the publishing team reads Uservoice. The best way to get a resource suggestion noticed is to send a mail to suggest@logos.com. The second best is to use the Suggestion forum. After that it's really very little we can do, except wait. You could try contacting the publisher directly, but that may or may not help. Sometimes it's a good idea, but there's been rumours that some publishers get really annoyed by it.
And as for "Should be easy to license/import as Accordance has had it for years", well, that may be precisely why it's impossible to license. Accordance may have negotiated a contract that gives them the sole right to publish NETS electronically.
fgh:First: welcome to the forums, since no one said that after your first post.
fgh:Uservoice is for features, not books.
fgh:Logos can decide how to spend developers' time based on votes, because they employ those developers. They can't decide what books to publish based on votes, because they don't own the rights to those books. If the copyright holder says no, it doesn't matter if you've gathered a million votes. Logos still can't produce it.
fgh:The best way to get a resource suggestion noticed is to send a mail to suggest@logos.com. The second best is to use the Suggestion forum.I've done both & now I've also emailed NETS & the Oxford University Press to make sure there isn't a problem a their end.
fgh:The best way to get a resource suggestion noticed is to send a mail to suggest@logos.com. The second best is to use the Suggestion forum.
fgh:And as for "Should be easy to license/import as Accordance has had it for years", well, that may be precisely why it's impossible to license. Accordance may have negotiated a contract that gives them the sole right to publish NETS electronically.
I have it on Kindle...so the rights can't be exclusive
Alex Smith:I saw other book suggestions there, so I thought it was ok, sorry .
No need for the . I don't think it's forbidden in any way, just not very meaningful in my opinion.
Alex Smith:True, but if the copyright holder says yes, it does take developers' time to implement, particularly if they do the Reverse Interlinear.
From everything I've read, the text development teams are separate from the software development teams, and those who do RI's are even more separate. Also, the text development teams are the ones that bring in the money, the software development teams are the ones that spend it, so I think we can be pretty confident that no votes of ours are needed to give the former whatever they need from the latter. And since NETS has every potential to become a bestseller, I suspect we can also be pretty confident that if it's not being produced, it's not because Logos doesn't want to.
Alex Smith:the following makes me hope that's not the case, (...) we expect that other electronic Bible databases will also license it from the Press in the future."
Good find, and good sign.
Alex Smith:I've also emailed NETS & the Oxford University Press
Ouch! Is OUP involved? Very bad sign. Logos currently seems to be having serious troubles licensing anything at all from OUP.
Oh my. OUP. Ok ... everybody off the NETS bus.
Any updates on NETS?