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jwsheets | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Nov 1 2017 4:41 PM

Hi,

I am wanting to filter a Greek text and identify which nouns are affected by a preposition and which are in the dative case (if possible, dative of place where).

Is there a search function available that could automate the process?

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Joseph Meyer | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 1 2017 5:18 PM

Wow! I didn't expect to see you here trying to help me! Thanks!

I have more information about this request, too:

I'm using "select ALL MORPH TEXT" in "ALL PASSAGES" in "DESCRIPTIONS OF GREECE (Greek)" for @p, @ND[DPS][FMN].

But, I only need to look at particular chapter of the book; how do I limit the parameters of the search?

Thanks!

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 1 2017 9:15 PM

jwsheets:
Is there a search function available that could automate the process?

Morph Search for many prepositions followed by dative nouns:

@P BEFORE 3 WORDS @ND

Syntax Search can find prepositional phrases with dative nouns: e.g. Matthew 3.1

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 1 2017 10:02 PM

Joseph Meyer:

I'm using "select ALL MORPH TEXT" in "ALL PASSAGES" in "DESCRIPTIONS OF GREECE (Greek)" for @p, @ND[DPS][FMN].

But, I only need to look at particular chapter of the book; how do I limit the parameters of the search?

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Initial Morph Search using comma means find a passage that has a preposition and a dative noun (can be separated by many words). Better would be proximity search:

@P BEFORE 3 WORDS @ND

For a particular chapter, click on "All Passages" followed by entering desired chapter(s) to be searched:

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Joseph Meyer | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 2 2017 12:33 PM

Thank you for your quick reply!

See below regarding the issue I'm having...

Thanks!

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 2 2017 12:36 PM

Joseph, your search is for "morph text". Is your resource a morph tagged text?

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Joseph Meyer | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 2 2017 12:37 PM

I have no idea; I figured all my owned texts would be already tagged?

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 2 2017 12:45 PM

Joseph Meyer:
See below regarding the issue I'm having...

Changing Morph Search to specific resource (instead of All Open Resources) changes passage drop down:

When the reference is recognised, drop-down changes: e.g. Pausanias, Description of Greece 3

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Joseph Meyer | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 2 2017 12:59 PM

Thanks -- I'm half way there, but specific chapters are still not showing up:

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 2 2017 1:07 PM

John Fidel:

Joseph, your search is for "morph text". Is your resource a morph tagged text?

Free Perseus collection => Perseus Classics Collection (1,114 vols.) includes "Description of Greece" by Pausanias in English and Greek.

English Perseus resources lack tagging for Morph Search. Greek resources can be searched using Logos Greek Morphology.

Multi-View ||| can be used for parallel display of Greek and English:

FYI: screen shot shows Greek with visual filters highlighting articles and prepositions along with Morph Search results:

@P BEFORE 3 WORDS @ND

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Joseph Meyer | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 2 2017 1:16 PM

I'm still confused why I cannot target a specific chapter to be searched?

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 2 2017 1:16 PM

Joseph Meyer:
Thanks -- I'm half way there, but specific chapters are still not showing up:

What version of Logos 7 ?

Logos 7.11 Beta 1 added reference range filtering to Basic and Morph searches => https://wiki.logos.com/Logos_7.11_Beta_1

Logos 7.11 Beta 1:

  • Added support for filtering Basic searches with a reference range.
  • Added support for filtering Morph searches with a reference range.
  • Added NOT Operators to Search cookbook.
  • Added German translations to the cookbook in German UI.

Speculating stable 7.11 release near Mon 27 Nov

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Joseph Meyer | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 2 2017 1:25 PM

7.10.0.0019.

Were you giving me instructions which are only applicable to beta-branch users?

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 2 2017 1:30 PM

Joseph Meyer:

Were you giving me instructions which are only applicable to beta-branch users?

Yes Embarrassed for restricting Morph Search to a specific chapter.

Logos wiki has => Logos 7 Beta Program information + risks (since one option is using 7.11 Beta for specific chapter searches).

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Joseph Meyer | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 2 2017 1:33 PM

This makes far more sense now!

I updated my client to support beta options and it's working! THANK YOU!

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 2 2017 1:37 PM

Joseph Meyer:
I updated my client to support beta options and it's working! THANK YOU!

+1 Yes Smiling Big Smile plus Thanks to Faithlife for enabling search reference range.

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Joseph Meyer | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 2 2017 1:38 PM

While we're on this note: is there a way to have Logos express the results of the search in graph form? If so, how?

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 2 2017 2:07 PM

Joseph Meyer:

While we're on this note: is there a way to have Logos express the results of the search in graph form? If so, how?

Noticed Morph Search and Basic Search of this Perseus resource do not have graph results:

Analysis can be done when have the time to wait awhile (my 2011 MacBook Air took over 8 minutes):

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Joseph Meyer | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 2 2017 2:35 PM

Thanks!

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