Ignatius Catholic Study Bible Missing Old Testament Volumes

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Josh Adongay | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Nov 2 2017 7:49 PM

Judges and Ruth: Ignatius Catholic Study Bible-published September 1, 2015.

1&2 Kings: Ignatius Catholic Study Bible - published October 10, 2017

Scott Hahn & Curtis Mitch do great work together.  Seeing as the rest of the Ignatius Bible chapters are here I'd like to add this to my collection.  I really hope that this duo finishes out the Old Testament someday!

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Kevin Clemens | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 5 2017 6:29 PM

There are a few others as well. Likewise, I would very much enjoy seeing these (and any future volumes in the series) made available on Verbum.

Joshua (May 7, 2017)

1 & 2 Samuel (Sept 26, 2016)

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 6 2017 10:00 AM
The publisher can sometimes be an issue too... Fortress Press seems to have a very good relationship with FL and has started offering books in Logos almost as soon as they are released physically. If this publisher and FL worked together they may see release quickly but often times years will pass before FL and a publisher make a deal to get a book out. I would like these volumes for the ICSB too but no idea when we will see them or what the reason for a delay might be. -Dan
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Patrick Fleischmann | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 7 2018 4:00 PM

It looks like Verbum needs an Ignatius Study Bible Upgrade Part 2 set to include:

1 & 2 Samuel

1 & 2 Kings

Judges & Ruth

Joshua

(Non Verbum rant: The pricing from Ignatius kills me on these.  They want exactly the same price whether you get a physical book or an e-book.  I don't expect folks to give away this sort of material digitally, but seriously - the exact same price for physical or ebook?  Avoiding the cost of paper, and printing takes NOTHING away from the cost?  This is the same flawed notion as the Wall Street Journal wanting the same price for the digitally delivered content or the physically delivered content.  What about some combination at a slightly higher cost (NOT DOUBLE) that would give me a physical book but allow me to get the ebook as well for reading at Adoration or other times when I can't have my physical library dragged behind me down the street?)

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 8 2018 7:57 AM

Patrick Fleischmann:

They want exactly the same price whether you get a physical book or an e-book.  I don't expect folks to give away this sort of material digitally, but seriously - the exact same price for physical or ebook? 

Or setting a price very near the price of the physical book seems to be where the industry is headed.  

However one smaller text book house is trying a one price and get access to all of its text books for the semester.  

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Patrick Fleischmann | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 8 2018 9:05 AM

The movie studios sort of have this concept correct in my opinion.  You can buy a movie on BluRay - although it will contain the DVD for those who haven't yet made the switch to BluRay.  And there will be a digital download code so you can pull the movie into your iTunes library or other digital tablet/phone/computer media repository operating system of choice.  This is truly the "pay for content" and "consume" it in whichever way is convenient for you.  You own the right to a copy of that movie - regardless of the medium of transmission.  

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Kevin Clemens | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 21 2019 11:16 AM

The next installment is coming out in print this May: ICSB: Tobit, Judith, and Esther.

It would be great to have these other published OT volumes in Verbum:

  • Joshua
  • Judges and Ruth
  • 1 & 2 Samuel.
  • 1 & 2 Kings.
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Patrick Fleischmann | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 21 2019 11:47 AM

Can I hear an Amen?   

This set is such a no-brainer for FL to pull into Verbum as soon as possible.   Such a chunk of it is already there.    The Church's Bible set is another like this where the commentary for certain books of the Bible is yet to be written but then even when it is and with an existing portion of it already available in Verbum, it still seems to take forever for FL to get their offering current with what is out there in print.  It makes it tough to want to invest in these types of sets with FL.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 23 2019 9:35 AM

Patrick Fleischmann:
It makes it tough to want to invest in these types of sets with FL.

Is the point to own a set, or to buy books that one will use?

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Kevin Clemens | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 23 2019 12:15 PM

SineNomine:

Is the point to own a set, or to buy books that one will use?

While I certainly agree that the latter is the case, given the manner in which the ICSB has been structured, I see definite benefits to owning the complete set as it is available. To my mind, owning the full set (when available) maximizes the value of the resources I already own. 

For instance, consider the Word Study on "Accursed" (anathema) at Gal 1:8. In seeking to better understand Galatians, the study bible directs me to a further word study for "Devoted" which is contained in the Joshua volume (not yet available in Verbum).

Another example is found in the note on Eph 1:18, which directs one to the word study for "Heart" in the Deuteronomy volume.

A final instance that comes to mind is in the ICSB:Genesis volume, which not only directs one to a note in the Exodus commentary, but also to a topical essay contained in the Leviticus volume

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Patrick Fleischmann | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 24 2019 1:11 PM
I could not possibly have responded better. A set like this is meant to be comprehensive and self-referential. As such, trying to use it with pieces missing is a very frustrating experience. Particularly when the lag from physical publishing to electronic publishing is so long.
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LogosEmployee

Getting this series current in Verbum is on my list of things to license this year. I've got a growing list of things to get from Ignatius.

I'm also working on reducing the lag between the print v. Verbum publication.  The Catholic Commentary on Sacred Scripture is a recent success story.  The recent Luke volume make it into Verbum ~6 weeks following the print publication.  JFYI, this series is going to complete in print this year and we'll aim to get the two outstanding volumes into Verbum as quickly as possible.

Stay tuned....

Craig St. Clair | Verbum Product Manager |

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 27 2019 4:34 PM

Craig St. Clair (Faithlife):

I'm also working on reducing the lag between the print v. Verbum publication.  The Catholic Commentary on Sacred Scripture is a recent success story.  The recent Luke volume make it into Verbum ~6 weeks following the print publication.  

We noticed … and appreciate the work from you and the team.  Smile  

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Kevin Clemens | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 27 2019 6:47 PM

Craig St. Clair (Faithlife):

The Catholic Commentary on Sacred Scripture ... JFYI, this series is going to complete in print this year and we'll aim to get the two outstanding volumes into Verbum as quickly as possible. 

Very much looking forward to Nathan Eubank's volume for CCSS on 1-2 Thessalonians later this year. Glad to know it will be available in Verbum in good time! 

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