Bug: Advanced Prioritization of Louw-Nida

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Beloved | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Nov 4 2017 4:55 AM

Advanced prioritization of LN for Greek headwords for internal reference to LN previously double click on headwords within LN took the reader to volume 2. Now the functionality has been changed; double click has no result. In order to get to vol 2, one must search LN and select headword for vol 2 from the list of results. Please restore previous behavior, It was simple and efficient; I'm not sure when this was changed or why.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 4 2017 7:35 AM

Support Info shows revision on 21 Sep 2017:

LLS:46.30.4
2017-09-21T01:21:22Z
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Volume 1 now has Greek Headword indexing (along with Louw Nida number and page) that is found before Volume 2

When a Greek headword has more than one Louw-Nida number, the first Louw-Nida number is now found: e.g. ψυχή headword opens LN 9.20 (found LN 4.1 idiom has "ψυχὴ ζωῆς" for Greek Headword index that does not match ψυχή).

Beloved:
Please restore previous behavior, It was simple and efficient; I'm not sure when this was changed or why.

+1 Yes for removing Greek Headword indexing from Volume 1

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Beloved | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 4 2017 8:25 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
Volume 1 now has Greek Headword indexing (along with Louw Nida number and page) that is found before Volume 2

KS4J,

I take no issue with how LN functions for Greek headwords referencing vol1. My issue is that advanced prioritization has been nullified. I must manually page to vol 2 or search resource to access vol 2 whereas before this was achieved with a double click. Are you satisfied with this new behavior and if so why? If FL were to allow access to vol 2 from the drop down menu in vol 1 I would be satisfied.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 4 2017 10:54 AM

Beloved:
I must manually page to vol 2 or search resource to access vol 2 whereas before this was achieved with a double click.

Double click selects word followed by looking up that word using Greek headword index, which has the first index search result in volume 1. Hence, search is needed to find Volume 2 headword (OR manually select Volume 2 entry). One way to "restore" double click into Volume 2 is removal of Greek headword tagging from Volume 1.

Beloved:
If FL were to allow access to vol 2 from the drop down menu in vol 1 I would be satisfied.

Faithlife developers may be able to provide another way to access Volume 2.

Concur Volume 2 is useful, especially with Power Lookup showing range of semantic usage (with links to Volume 1)

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John Brumett | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 4 2017 11:05 AM

I personally like the change to headwords especially when I have multiple resources open.  I can now go directly to the intended meaning without going to the index.  I also understand your preference and its importance.  I was wondering if if was possible in advanced prioritization to select the page numbers so that only volume 2 is selected?   

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 4 2017 12:03 PM

John Brumett:
I can now go directly to the intended meaning without going to the index.

Clicking "bearing" in Hebrews 13:13 (1984 NIV) changes LN position to 90.64 (Bible and Lexicon linked) with headword φέρω (9) so suspect LN number was used (Right Click on bearing lacks (9) suffix). Double clicking φέρω changes LN position to LN 13.35 (send hyperlinks here) that is the first occurrence of φέρω (headword is in Volume 1 and Volume 2)

John Brumett:
I was wondering if if was possible in advanced prioritization to select the page numbers so that only volume 2 is selected?   

Advanced Prioritization allows filtering to Greek (headwords in resource), but does not allow passage specification: e.g. Volume 2.

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Beloved | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 4 2017 12:26 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
Concur Volume 2 is useful, especially with Power Lookup showing range of semantic usage (with links to Volume 1)

Contemplating this issue and its implications lead me to conclude that the best way to call attention to this matter is to classify this iteration as a bug.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 4 2017 2:07 PM

Beloved:
he best way to call attention to this matter is to classify this iteration as a bug.

I would agree

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Beloved | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 6 2017 10:58 AM

Dave Hooton:
I would agree

bump  to Philana Crouch

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Beloved | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 8 2017 10:36 AM

Pay attention FL. Let's hear from you!

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Adam Borries (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 8 2017 10:39 AM

We'll look into it. Can you provide a screenshot of your advanced prioritization settings for LN? Thanks. 

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Beloved | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 8 2017 10:50 AM

Thanks, Adam that was quick! Here it is; sorry I had to break it up.

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Lankford Oxendine | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 11 2018 9:32 PM

What's the status on this bug?  Did FL ever acknowledge?  The current behavior with Louw-Nida is infuriating.

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Philana R. Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 12 2018 12:30 PM

Lankford Oxendine:

What's the status on this bug?  Did FL ever acknowledge?  The current behavior with Louw-Nida is infuriating.

This is an issue with how the resource is tagged and we do have an open case for it.

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Lankford Oxendine | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 12 2018 2:14 PM

Thank you for the response!

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Beloved | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 25 2018 8:50 PM

Philana R. Crouch:

Lankford Oxendine:

What's the status on this bug?  Did FL ever acknowledge?  The current behavior with Louw-Nida is infuriating.

This is an issue with how the resource is tagged and we do have an open case for it.

Word, Philana?

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

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Beloved | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 28 2018 1:01 PM

bump

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Philana R. Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 29 2018 8:55 AM

Beloved:

bump

Hi Beloved,

I don't have any updates. I'll check into it.

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Kyle G. Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 29 2018 11:38 AM

Beloved

I have a plan for a resource update that will make it easier for you to use. It will probably be a couple of months before I'm able to get it out the door though.

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Lankford Oxendine | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 29 2018 11:51 AM

Thank you Beloved for keeping this issue "alive".  I am patiently awaiting an update.

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