Functionality on desktop vs web app

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Lance Kastel | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Nov 8 2017 8:19 PM

Trying to decide if I should upgrade mac version to use desktop or if I should use web app instead? Would be useful if there was a link showing major differences in web app vs desktop (already see there is no highlighting or custom layouts on web app)

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 8 2017 10:17 PM

What desktop upgrade are you considering?

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Lance Kastel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 9 2017 6:22 AM

I have an older Mac running 10.9.* and I will need to upgrade to 10.12 to run Logos 7 (I believe), with all the possible issues there I am trying to avoid it. I would much rather use my iPad and run the web app but I'm finding there are things on web app that are missing which really hurt my studying

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 9 2017 6:32 AM

Lance Kastel:
I have an older Mac running 10.9.* and I will need to upgrade to 10.12 to run Logos 7 (I believe), with all the possible issues there I am trying to avoid it.

Yes, to run Logos 7.12 you will need a minimum OS version of 10.11 as per https://community.logos.com/forums/p/152976/932012.aspx#932012 

Other can comment better that I can on Mac upgrades but I understand that most Mac users keep current with operating system releases. Certainly in terms of Logos - getting to version 7 is a good move and ensures you stay on a supported platform.

Lance Kastel:
I would much rather use my iPad and run the web app but I'm finding there are things on web app that are missing which really hurt my studying

Yes - and I think that this is going to be the case for some time. Also its important to recognise that there are some things that work in the web app when using a desktop / laptop that don't work well (if at all) from a mobile device such as a tablet.

If it all possible I would recommend doing the OS and Logos upgrade if there are things you need that are not available in the web app

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Lance Kastel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 9 2017 6:36 AM

Is there a list of some of those things that work on desktop vs tablet for web app?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 9 2017 6:54 AM

Lance Kastel:

Is there a list of some of those things that work on desktop vs tablet for web app?

Not that I have seen - sorry. And the state of the web app is continually changing so probably not feasible to maintain such a document effectively.

The biggest different - for me - is that while you can "right-click" a word in a resource on the desktop and access the context menu this is not possible on mobile devices.

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Lance Kastel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 9 2017 7:09 AM

Am I correct that the web app does not have highlighting (at least on the iPad)?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 9 2017 7:26 AM

Lance Kastel:

Am I correct that the web app does not have highlighting (at least on the iPad)?

Yes - it is available through the right-click menu on the desktop.

But its also important to know that the notes / highlighting system being developed on the web app is the initial implementation of an entirely new notes / highlighting system. Once it has developed sufficiently it will be rolled out across the desktop and mobile app environments as well. Until that happens notes and highlights made on the web app will not sync with the desktop and mobile apps nor vice versa

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 9 2017 9:06 AM

One consideration is do you use personal books. Which most likely will never be available to the web app. I was very pleasantly surprised to discover that non mobile enabled books like the Jerome Biblical Commentary and the Oxford Bible Commentary are accessible through the WEB APP. The web app is always being improved can feel a bit slow on my internet (I am satellite based, on a more robust cable/DSL system it may be fine). For ChromeBook users and UNIX users FL has provided a very good solution that I know they are working on getting as close to the Desktop APP experience as possible, for me I am glad to stay within the framework of my own computer and not rely on network connectivity for my Bible Study, partly because I do not have a solid internet connection but even my friends and in laws in the city and bigger centres complain about lost internet (usually under a day, although my mother in law was with out hers for almost a week at home and 2 days at work (storm related and MOST people in her town of 10,000 were up with in a day and half). And at least she had her cell phone for internet, where as I am in a cell dead zone on my farm.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 10 2017 12:26 AM

Lance Kastel:

I have an older Mac running 10.9.* and I will need to upgrade to 10.12 to run Logos 7 (I believe), with all the possible issues there I am trying to avoid it. I would much rather use my iPad and run the web app but I'm finding there are things on web app that are missing which really hurt my studying

Hi Lance

Might you tell what the 'possible issues' are with upgrading the Mac. As you probably know the proportion of OSX user running the latest version of the software is huge compared with other operating system users. Generally glitches are sorted quickly and if your system is really old then the installer will limit your upgrades to the latest compatible version of the software.

Remaining on legacy operating systems tends to leave one vulnerable to security risks and makes effective technical support difficult.

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Lance Kastel | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 10 2017 6:33 AM

Mike

It's more of a precaution since I have my personal apps, work VPN, and other stuff on my mac, I do have current backup and I will look to do upgrades this weekend. Bottom line it's little frustration that there are so many differences desktop vs web app vs mobile. 

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 10 2017 7:32 AM

Lance Kastel:
It's more of a precaution since I have my personal apps, work VPN, and other stuff on my mac, I do have current backup and I will look to do upgrades this weekend.

I think that would be wise.

Lance Kastel:
Bottom line it's little frustration that there are so many differences desktop vs web app vs mobile.

The main difficulty as I understand it is history, Logos was a mature Windows only program when they decided to port it to the Mac hence there are some Windows(ish) hangovers and some unmaclike behaviour.

Once as the popularity of the Mac version became evident along came the iPad and a cry to make Logos work on a third operation system.

Really the first tablet versions were designed as 'book readers' but they have grown in complexity over the years but there is still a good way to go before the tablet can match the desktop. Anyway who would want 8 panels open on the screen of an iPad? What works on a twin monitor 27in screens is hardly likely to be that useful on a 10.5 in tablet.

However Faithlife have exceeded my expectations in the development of the Logos Bible App and I believe there is more and better to come.

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Jason Benham | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 25 2017 7:23 AM

Have they announced a date for the rollout of the new Note system so that the web app notes will sync with desktop?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 25 2017 8:30 AM

Not as yet 

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