Responsive Readings Suggestions

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Tim Farley | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018 12:08 PM

Hi all. I am wondering if anyone has suggestions about resources that contain responsive readings for congregational worship. I know I could create my own, but I would like to see if anything is already out there. Many hymnals sometimes have them in the back and I have a Bible that has some. Any Logos resources that you are aware of? Thanks for the help!

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Ted Harms | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 13 2018 5:42 AM

I did not see any Logos resource that had any. However, if you search the internet for responsive readings there are are many suggestions.

http://fwbreadings.blogspot.com/2004/12/table-of-contents.html

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 13 2018 6:42 AM

Tim Farley:
Any Logos resources that you are aware of?

Suggest searching for:

(Priest,Deacon,Leader) BEFORE 88 WORDS (People,Choir) BEFORE 3 WORDS (Amen,pray)

Screen shot shows results ordered by Count.

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Tim Farley | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 13 2018 8:45 AM

Thanks Ted and Keep Smiling. I will look at both of those suggestions.

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Tim Farley | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 13 2018 11:49 AM

Thanks, Justin! It looks like that has a section specifically on responsive readings. I'll grab that one.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 15 2018 7:10 AM

Justin Gatlin:

Filtering my library for responsive only finds Calls to Worship (so currently have one resource with Responsive Worship subject).

Modified search to include some results in Calls to Worship (took 5 minutes for Library results to appear for me):

(Leader,Pastor,Priest) BEFORE 77 WORDS (Choir,Congregation,People) BEFORE 4 WORDS (Amen,Lord,pray)

Expanded search to include more results in Calls to Worship:

(Deacon,Leader,Pastor,Priest) BEFORE 77 WORDS (All,Congregation,Choir,People) BEFORE 7 WORDS (Amen,God,Lord,love,pray,singing,thanks)

found a bug in my library so created thread => Bug 7.13 RC 1 Search does not show Library results after 5 hours

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Tim Farley | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 19 2018 6:41 AM

Thanks again, Keep Smiling. Can you tell me how/why your search string includes "BEFORE 77 WORDS" and "BEFORE 4 WORDS"? How/why did you come up with that? I understand how the search strings work, but just curious why 77 and 4. Thanks!

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 19 2018 7:00 AM

Tim Farley:
Can you tell me how/why your search string includes "BEFORE 77 WORDS" and "BEFORE 4 WORDS"? How/why did you come up with that? I understand how the search strings work, but just curious why 77 and 4.

77 is a guess for word range limit between a leader and response. Earlier search in this thread had 88, but results were not being displayed so reduced range a bit. Feast of Tabernacles has 7 days along with 7 & 8 being numbers of perfection (so doubled the numbers for searching word range).

Screen shot shows one result where Congregation precedes Lord by 4 words. Earlier search had range of 3 words for response example.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 19 2018 3:05 PM

Books such as The Abingdon Preaching Annual  often include responsorial readings for each Sunday. Also look for titles that imply worship planning.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Tim Farley | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 20 2018 7:59 AM

Thanks, MJ. I have several of Nelson's Annual Preacher's Sourcebooks 
but they do not seem to have responsive readings. I may try Abingdon and see how I like them. I'll see what else Faithlife may have out there for worship planning too.

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 20 2018 2:40 PM

I occasionally have created my own using the "Copy Bible Verses" tool within LOGOS. One of the built in options is "Responsive Reading".  It takes a bit of editing:

  1. Adding "PEOPLE" and "PASTOR" to every other entry.
  2. Bolding the lines to be spoken by the congregation.
  3. Changing indents so prompts stand out on the left Margin with the spoken text to the right.
  4. Adding a title to the top of the page.
  5. Because my audience consists of senior citizens, I enlarge the typeface to 16 or 18 point.

I am attaching a piece I used last week from Amos 3:

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Blessings,
Floyd

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 20 2018 2:47 PM

The other source I have found is Google Books. A search for "Google Books Responsive Reading" will return several possibilities. Some of these are old enough that they are no longer in copyright and can be freely used. These tend to be photocopied (i.e. PDF) books and take a bit more work to create a useable version for congregational use.

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Floyd

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Tim Farley | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 21 2018 10:13 AM

Hi Floyd. Thanks for your responses. When I go to the Copy Bible Verses tool I do not see an option for Responsive Readings. You said it is a "built in" option. If that is true, I am not sure why I would not see it. I can create new layouts. Is that what you meant?

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 21 2018 10:49 AM

I am not sure why you are not seeing this option. It is in the fourth line of styles down.   

I have modified some of the existing ones, but doubt that I would have felt competent enough to create this one. Here is the "Style" that is used to create the responsive reading layout:

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%NoCharFormatting
%NoRedLetter
%NoFootnotes
%NoCitation

=ForEachVerse
<p>
[VerseText]
</p>

========================================

Hope that helps.

Blessings,
Floyd

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Tim Farley | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 21 2018 11:42 AM

Hmm... Interesting. I only have three rows of options.

First row: Fully Formatted, One Verse Per Line, One Verse Per Line (Full Reference), Quotation

Second row: Simple Paragraphs, Bible Text Only, Oration:One Paragraph, Oration:One Verse Per Line

Third Row: Bible Paragraphs, Fully Formatted with Footnotes, Observation Worksheet

I am running Logos 7.12 SR-1.

Thanks for the formatting code by the way. At least that will allow me to create the layout manually.

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 21 2018 1:26 PM

Here are the nineteen styles (5 rows) I have available - some of these I have modified/renamed from the standard ones:

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Floyd

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 27 2018 9:17 AM

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Expanded search took 16,775.79 seconds in my library, which is a bit less than 5 hours.

Search results included resources with many responsive readings (also found many resources that do not have responsive readings)

The Service Book of the Holy Orthodox-Catholic Apostolic (Greco-Russian) Church

The Offices of the Oriental Church, with an Historical Introduction

The Services of the Christian Year (Library of Christian Worship: Volume 5)

The Great Book of Needs (4 vols.) (all 4 volumes include responsive readings)

The Renewal of Sunday Worship (Library of Christian Worship, vol. 3)

A History of the Holy Eastern Church, vol. 1: General Introduction

The Liturgies of Ss. Mark, James, Clement, Chrysostom, and Basil, and the Church of Malabar

The Divine Liturgies of Our Fathers among the Saints John Chrysostom and Basil the Great with that of the Presanctified

Missals of the Roman Catholic Church (3 vols.) (Third Edition is English while the other two volumes are Latin)

An Abridged Typicon

Twenty Centuries of Christian Worship (Library of Christian Worship: Volume 2)

Liturgies Eastern and Western: Eastern Liturgies

The Book of Common Prayer, 1979

The Sacred Actions of Christian Worship Library of Christian Worship: vol. 6)

The Ministries of Christian Worship Library of Christian Worship: Volume 7)

Volume 7 => Early Church Fathers Special Catholic Edition (37 vols.) OR Early Church Fathers Protestant Edition (37 vols.)

St. Tikhon’s Church Slavonic Collection (2 vols.) includes "The Orthodox Prayer Book: English"

The Annotated Book of Common Prayer

Alcuin Club Tracts (27 vols.) includes "Anglican Liturgies"

Monasticism in the Orthodox Churches

Calls to Worship: A Pocket Resource (link posted earlier in this thread)

Walking Where Jesus Walked: Worship in Fourth-Century Jerusalem

The Lord’s Service: The Grace of Covenant Renewal Worship

The Festal Menaion

Oxford Studies on the Book of Common Prayer (2 vols.) includes "The Book of Common Prayer: The Texts of 1549, 1559, and 1662"

A Guide to the Holy Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom

East Syrian Daily Offices: Translated from the Syriac with Introduction, Notes, and Indices, and an Appendix Containing the Lectionary and

The Sarum Missal in English (2 vols.)

The Shape of the Liturgy

Perspectives on Christian Worship: Five Views

The Lenten Triodion

The Two Liturgies, A.D. 1549, and A.D. 1552: With Other Documents Set Forth by Authority in the Reign of King Edward VI

Seeking Wisdom: Inclusive Blessings and Prayers for Public Occasions

Above resources had over 100 results (so list is incomplete for responsive readings in resources)

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 27 2018 1:57 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

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Expanded search took 16,775.79 seconds in my library, which is a bit less than 5 hours.

Modified search completes in 20.82 seconds with significantly smaller subset having many Responsive Readings

[match all] ([field surface] Deacon,Leader,Pastor,Priest) BEFORE 77 WORDS ([field surface] All,Choir,Congregation,People) BEFORE 7 WORDS ([field surface] Amen,God,Lord,love,pray,singing,thanks)

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 27 2018 2:00 PM

KS4J - it seems to me that your search would find almost all liturgical services as they also have the leader/congregant back and forth but not in a responsive reading sense. I'll mull over how to easily eliminate them.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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