The following datasets are scheduled to be released today, February 20, 2018:
For Logos Now subscribers
Updated Datasets
If for some reason these updates are not made available today (Tuesday, February 20) I will update this thread.
Rick BrannanData Wrangler, FaithlifeMy books in print
Nice! Thanks, Rick.
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Thanks, Rick! Excited to see what the Theophanies dataset can reveal.
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Rick Brannan (Faithlife):Theophanies in the Bible
Excellent news Rick - I'm just working through a sermon series on "Visions of God in the Bible"!
Rick Brannan (Faithlife):If for some reason these updates are not made available today (Tuesday, February 20) I will update this thread.
Looks like it will be tomorrow (Wednesday, Feb 21) when these resources are made available. Thanks, all, for your patience.
Great work. Thanks Rick and team.
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Mark Smith: Great work. Thanks Rick and team.
More team than Rick on this one. I just have the good fortune of announcing things.
The example searches (in the documentation) give zero results. The search defaults to Basic; choosing Bible still gives zero results.
Going to the example verses mentioned in the documentation and right-clicking gives zero results.
The email address at the bottom of the documentation (data.theophanies@faithlife.com) is an undeliverable address.
The library has finished indexing, and I've restarted Logos. What am I doing wrong?
One Hope Fellowship:The example searches (in the documentation) give zero results.
The dataset hasn't shipped yet.
Rick Brannan (Faithlife): Looks like it will be tomorrow (Wednesday, Feb 21) when these resources are made available. Thanks, all, for your patience.
Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):The dataset hasn't shipped yet.
Now the dataset has shipped as illustrated...
But I still can't get the examples (except 1) to produce any results. See below...
I also cannot seem to find this in the Bible Browser as advertised or the context menu or information panel (I looked in places that I already knew were theophanies).
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James Taylor:But I still can't get the examples (except 1) to produce any results. See below...
I get the same lack of results as you do
James Taylor:I also cannot seem to find this in the Bible Browser as advertised or the context menu or information panel (I looked in places that I already knew were theophanies).
I do see results in the Information Panel for text containing theophanies - for example I clicked on Gen 48:3 and this is flagged as a theophany in the Information Panel in the "Other References" section
Graham Criddle: I clicked on Gen 48:3 and this is flagged as a theophany in the Information Panel in the "Other References" section
EDIT: Nevermind I reset my pointer on the word appeared and it now shows the tagging
It's definitely odd though that by clicking on a different word "blessed" in the same verse the tagging disappears. I thought this tagging was at the verse level not at the word level
The tagging is at the word level (so, words/phrases/clauses/etc.).
The documentation will soon be updated, but until then, instead of "Type of Manifestation" use "Manifestation", and instead of "Image of Appearance" use "Appearance".
Also, should be "<Person Jesus>", etc. (the brackets indicate a data type reference, "Person" the scheme).
Rick Brannan (Faithlife):until then, instead of "Type of Manifestation" use "Manifestation"
still can't get that one to work...
Also, is there any approximate timeline on this coming to the Bible Browser? That is where I think the average user will see the power of this dataset.
Thank you guys, I'm excited to see this feature!
Hi Rick / Bradley / others,
Can you please point me to a page that explains what datasets are, how do I use them, etc?
The reason for asking is the transition from Logos Now to Faithlife Connect. If at some point I decide to unsubscribe, I want to maintain access to the interactive tools and other features. If I do lose access to the datasets, do I only lose the ability to do fancy searches with complex syntax (which I don't care for)? Or do I also lose the ability to use some of the interactive tools if I don't have access to the datasets?
Thanks for enlightening me,
Peter
PL: what datasets are, how do I use them, etc
A dataset is a file that is located in your Resources folder. Datasets facilitate classification of the text without tagging the resource e.g. one dataset will contain the location of Theophanies in the bible and/or indicate the text for each Theophany.
For bible text, datasets will have the text from a Greek bible (SBLGNT) and a Hebrew bible (LHB); which means that you need a reverse interlinear to see the affected text in an English bible. Which also explains why you might see gaps in the highlighting, where the English bible has inserted words for clarity in the translation.
PL: If at some point I decide to unsubscribe, I want to maintain access to the interactive tools and other features. If I do lose access to the datasets, do I only lose the ability to do fancy searches with complex syntax (which I don't care for)? Or do I also lose the ability to use some of the interactive tools if I don't have access to the datasets?
If you unsubscribe you lose access to Interactives and Datasets unless you own a Feature Set (look for Interactive Media and Datasets). If you are interested in Interactives you will also get their associated datasets + datasets that are used only in a (fancy) Search.
Note: some datasets also facilitate Visual Filters e.g. Speaker labels and Addressee labels depend on one dataset (Reported Speech), Discourse features need the Greek and Hebrew Discourse datasets.
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PL: how do I use them, etc
Individual datasets are documented; look for type:manual in Library. For some datasets also look at type:Glossary.
James Taylor: Rick Brannan (Faithlife):until then, instead of "Type of Manifestation" use "Manifestation" still can't get that one to work...
Documentation update also needs "Physical Appearance" instead of "Physical Manifestation"
{Label Theophany WHERE Manifestation ~ "Physical Appearance"}
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