March Madness: What's worth purchasing

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Beloved | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Mar 9 2018 8:42 PM

If you're like me you've already pretty much decided what you're interested in purchasing. I expect to invest close to $1,000.00 once all the voting has come in. Right now I'm looking at 6 resources. One Mobile Ed course and five commentaries.

  1. Paul's Letter to the Ephesians NT343 by Lynne Cohick 45% Savings
  2. Berit Olam. I have 3 volumes out of 12 so my savings is 58%
  3. Sacra Pagina
  4. Feasting on the Word
  5. ZECNT
  6. Lastly, a resource which is not apart of MM the Navarre Bible: New Testament. I plan to work a deal, but this is a trade secret that I can't divulge. Sorry, Smile

I'm interested to know what others are planning. Feel free to be brutally honest. This MM may entice some to overreach or for others to decide to stay on the sidelines. Hopefully, most of us will stay in our lanes and purchase only what we can truly afford. All input is welcome.

 

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

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Beloved | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 3:26 AM

EEC at $430.55 if you've taken advantage of all the special offers. Puts the remaining 32 vols at $14.45 is this enough to justify purchase of a product which is far from being ready for release? My opinion is NOT. As other sales will certainly prevail when the series is complete, I'd rather wait and see.

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

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Dale E Heath | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 9:51 AM

Yes, the EEC was a bad decision on my part. I'll never live long enough to receive it. I'm looking at the highly discounted ME courses in addition to 2 commentaries. I put them all in my Save For Later folder to play with and evaluate individual and total prices. I'll wait until it's over.

Dale Heath.

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Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 10:51 AM

And since Dan Francis is a huge fan of Westminster Bible Companion, I am considering it seriously.  I am a fan of Dan's posts.  MJ and Dan like Berit Olam and Sacra Pagina: so I am interested.  I have most of the other commentaries already. I have been buying EEC as they get published: I enjoy NICOT/NT more.  

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Greg Corbin | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 11:04 AM

I speak from the perspective of a busy pastor who uses Logos for sermon prep daily. In my opinion, here are the things that are good deals...

Of the things still on the board, the WBC and NICOT/NICNT at a big discount are certainly worth purchasing. They remain two of the best commentary sets available. Also, the new version of the EBC at half price or more would make me take a hard look as I understand that this version has at least 60% new material. Many of us have the old version and found it very helpful.

Of the things that already have their final price set, here are my opinions of the best values...

1.   UBS Handbook Series OT/NT for $395 is well worth the money. Don't' let the name fool you; this is a very valuable set that will become one of your favorites.

2.  Preachers Outline and Sermon Bible for $454 is well worth it. If you are a pastor who prepares multiple sermons per week - this is a MUST HAVE resource.

3.   While it is old, to get Lange's Commentary for under $200 is worth the money - particularly if you can't get it in a base package. The language exegesis is sold, and some of the homiletical sections are valuable.

4.   Likewise, Lenski on the NT for less than $200 is worth the money. Solid, no frills exegesis and commentary here. Truly timeless.

5.    The Holman New Testament Commentary for under $100 is very valuable - particularly for Sunday School teachers, laypersons who may have Logos. Even though I have an extensive library, I still consult it when preaching from the NT and occasionally find a good "nugget" that works its way into a message.

In my opinion, these are the most useful items on the board.

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Beloved | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 11:15 AM

Greg Corbin:

Of the things still on the board, the WBC and NICOT/NICNT at a big discount are certainly worth purchasing. They remain two of the best commentary sets available. Also, the new version of the EBC at half price or more would make me take a hard look as I understand that this version has at least 60% new material. Many of us have the old version and found it very helpful.

Of the things that already have their final price set, here are my opinions of the best values...

1.   UBS Handbook Series OT/NT for $395 is well worth the money. Don't' let the name fool you; this is a very valuable set that will become one of your favorites.

I own all of the commentaries that you mention except the Preacher's Outline which I feel could still be offered at a better price. I agree that NICOT/NT, WBC, and UBS Handbook are must-haves. The other titles are offered in base packages, so if you're still building your library these can be better picked up in this manner.

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 12:15 PM

Beloved:

Greg Corbin:

Of the things still on the board, the WBC and NICOT/NICNT at a big discount are certainly worth purchasing. They remain two of the best commentary sets available. Also, the new version of the EBC at half price or more would make me take a hard look as I understand that this version has at least 60% new material. Many of us have the old version and found it very helpful.

Of the things that already have their final price set, here are my opinions of the best values...

1.   UBS Handbook Series OT/NT for $395 is well worth the money. Don't' let the name fool you; this is a very valuable set that will become one of your favorites.

I own all of the commentaries that you mention except the Preacher's Outline which I feel could still be offered at a better price. I agree that NICOT/NT, WBC, and UBS Handbook are must-haves. The other titles are offered in base packages, so if you're still building your library these can be better picked up in this manner.

You are correct Beloved! The preacher’s outline and sermon Bible could be offered at a better price. ALL the competitors have offered the entire set for $250 and with a format far superior than the one Logos offers. It’s a great resource but overpriced in the Logos platform, unfortunately. Besides, aside from NIC and WBC, many other resources are part of base packages, so it’s cheaper to buy them that way, than to pay discounted prices for just one resource (e.g. Holman NT commentary, usb handbooks, etc.).

DAL

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Deacon Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 10 2018 1:14 PM

I'm currently looking at the two commentaries below.  Waiting to see how the remaining rounds go before I decide.

Brazos Theological Commentary

Feasting on the Word

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Everett Headley | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 11 2018 6:57 AM

I would guess if you are looking to complete a set because you like it or have a compulsion towards things being complete, you'd prob pick it up.  Myself, I have not bought a set for sometime, instead focusing on individual commentaries.   

As for mobile ed, unless they are under $40 or so, they simply are not a value to me.  I have not even voted in that brackett. 

I honestly think I will not be purchasing anything this MM.  ACCS was the only one that interested me, and I'm not sure it is on sale enough.

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Mark Henzler | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 11 2018 8:17 AM

I agree on the Holman set, often helpful. However, the commentary of Chronicles by Winfried Corduan is better than good, its excellent. I preached a series "Waiting for Christ to Come" and people really enjoyed it. 

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Mark Henzler | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 11 2018 8:21 AM

I agree with you about the Holman series. However, the volume on Chronicles by Winfried Corduan is absolutely phenomenal. I preached a series on Chronicles (Waiting for Christ to Come) and people really enjoyed it. 

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Tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 11 2018 8:22 AM

DAL:
Besides, aside from NIC and WBC, many other resources are part of base packages, so it’s cheaper to buy them that way, than to pay discounted prices for just one resource (e.g. Holman NT commentary, usb handbooks, etc.).

This is why I am not excited by March Madness at Logos this year Sad 

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 11 2018 9:08 AM

DAL:
Besides, aside from NIC and WBC, many other resources are part of base packages, so it’s cheaper to buy them that way, than to pay discounted prices for just one resource (e.g. Holman NT commentary, usb handbooks, etc.).

https://www.logos.com/product/39480/ubs-handbook-series-old-and-new-testament-collection 

Well, I've been to Korea (South) many times, and it's an amazing place. But outside the Korea package, UBS doesn't seem affordably packaged ... or the web page isn't complete maybe.

Then there's UBS NT more expensive than OT. That's odd.


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Beloved | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 11 2018 10:01 AM

Everett Headley:
I would guess if you are looking to complete a set because you like it or have a compulsion towards things being complete, you'd prob pick it up.  Myself, I have not bought a set for sometime, instead focusing on individual commentaries. 

Time is money. Waiting for commentaries to be priced lower than offered here is money if you need a volume for ministry. This is why I'd buy now as opposed to later. For the more important volumes, e.g. Berit Olam. This company rarely puts its resources on sale so strategically it is better to buy now rather than wait.

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 11 2018 11:16 AM

Help me understand the value of Berit Olam, I'm not familiar with it. Seems to be leaning catholic?

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Beloved | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 11 2018 12:00 PM

abondservant:

Help me understand the value of Berit Olam, I'm not familiar with it. Seems to be leaning catholic?

Berit Olam is from a Catholic perspective, but don't let this fool you, it has a wide appeal. It comments on the literary perspective of each book it addresses and more. It does a fantastic job. A picture is worth a thousand words so I will present an example for your perusal, I think this will give you a better understanding of what it has to offer. If you have a specific question, I will try to answer it. Berit Olam is outstanding!

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

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Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 11 2018 12:06 PM

abondservant:

Help me understand the value of Berit Olam, I'm not familiar with it. Seems to be leaning catholic?

Berit Olam (for OT) and Sacra Pagina (for NT) are probably the "best" Catholic critical commentaries. They focus on literary criticism rather than historical form criticism. They focus on the "end product" rather than trying to figure out who wrote the books. Very few other commentaries focus on literary criticism, and that is why I am attracted to them.  From reading the ones I have, they treat the issues fairly; and when they express a Catholic point of view, the authors tell you.  I like how seriously they treat the text.  Unlike Navarre Bible, which is very dogmatic ("this is what the Church teaches"), you can feel how the commentators try to struggle with the text in order to listen to what God has to say.  They are not too long, not too short: just enough meat but not too much to cause indigestion.  Most importantly, they treat the text reverently, without the skeptical attitude that permeates some commentaries.

There are down-sides: some have criticized that their literary criticism is often not methodologically consist. They can be uneven (as pointed out by Carsons in his NT Commentary Review book on Sacra Pagina.)  Not everyone is convinced that literary/narrative criticism brings anything new.

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Beloved | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 11 2018 12:12 PM

Paul Lee:

Berit Olam (for OT) and Sacra Pagina (for NT) are probably the "best" Catholic critical commentaries. They focus on literary criticism rather than historical form criticism. They focus on the "end product" rather than trying to figure out who wrote the books. Very few other commentaries focus on literary criticism, and that is why I am attracted to them.  From reading the ones I have, they treat the issues fairly; and when they express a Catholic point of view, the authors tell you.  I like how seriously they treat the text.  Unlike Navarre Bible, which is very dogmatic ("this is what the Church teaches"), you can feel how the commentators try to struggle with the text in order to listen to what God has to say.  They are not too long, not too short: just enough meat but not too much to cause indigestion.  Most importantly, they treat the text reverently, without the skeptical attitude that permeates some commentaries.

There are down-sides: some have criticized that their literary criticism is often not methodologically consist. They can be uneven (as pointed out by Carsons in his NT Commentary Review book on Sacra Pagina.)  Not everyone is convinced that literary/narrative criticism brings anything new.

Well said, Yes

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

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Whyndell Gizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 11 2018 1:46 PM

DAL:

Beloved:

Greg Corbin:

Of the things still on the board, the WBC and NICOT/NICNT at a big discount are certainly worth purchasing. They remain two of the best commentary sets available. Also, the new version of the EBC at half price or more would make me take a hard look as I understand that this version has at least 60% new material. Many of us have the old version and found it very helpful.

Of the things that already have their final price set, here are my opinions of the best values...

1.   UBS Handbook Series OT/NT for $395 is well worth the money. Don't' let the name fool you; this is a very valuable set that will become one of your favorites.

I own all of the commentaries that you mention except the Preacher's Outline which I feel could still be offered at a better price. I agree that NICOT/NT, WBC, and UBS Handbook are must-haves. The other titles are offered in base packages, so if you're still building your library these can be better picked up in this manner.

You are correct Beloved! The preacher’s outline and sermon Bible could be offered at a better price. ALL the competitors have offered the entire set for $250 and with a format far superior than the one Logos offers. It’s a great resource but overpriced in the Logos platform, unfortunately. Besides, aside from NIC and WBC, many other resources are part of base packages, so it’s cheaper to buy them that way, than to pay discounted prices for just one resource (e.g. Holman NT commentary, usb handbooks, etc.).

DAL

Not to mention the formatting of the Preachers Outline/Sermon Bible is far inferior to the other competitors.

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