BI205 and BI206

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Mar 26 2018 1:11 PM
Hi do these courses assume you have a working knowledge of the biblical languages or are they not required to succeed in the course? Does it show how to use Logos for exegesis? I have a semester of Greek and Hebrew thus far. Any help is appreciated

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 26 2018 3:02 PM

bump

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Dave Thawley | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 26 2018 4:17 PM

Bump again :-)

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 26 2018 7:06 PM

Bump

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 27 2018 6:39 AM

Keith Pang:
do these courses assume you have a working knowledge of the biblical languages or are they not required to succeed in the course?

"In this course I’m assuming that my audience knows elementary Greek, such as forms and basic vocabulary, but not intermediate Greek grammar and syntax. But even if you don’t know Greek, you should be able to follow most of the course."

Naselli, A. D. (2016). BI206 New Testament Exegesis: Understanding and Applying the New Testament. Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press.

As for BI205, if you've had one semester of Hebrew you will be fine to follow along

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 27 2018 7:46 AM

Thanks!! Are the textbooks that are written needed too? 

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 27 2018 9:42 AM

Keith Pang:
the textbooks

From BI206: 

"Craig Blomberg wrote a book with Jennifer Foutz Markley, A Handbook of New Testament Exegesis, and this is 2010. If I had to choose only one textbook to go with this course, this would be the book. It’s probably the single most helpful introduction to NT exegesis. It lays out the exegetical process in ten steps: textual criticism, translation and translations, historical-cultural context, literary context, word studies, grammar, interpretive problems, outlining, theology, and application."

Naselli, A. D. (2016). BI206 New Testament Exegesis: Understanding and Applying the New Testament. Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press.

BI205 Doesn't give a specific recommendation but based on the required reading, I'd be sure you have at least the Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology, Baker Encyclopedia of the Bible, and Basic Bible Interpretation, and Gesenius' Hebrew Grammar (I believe most of these are included with upper-level base packages). see below...

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Dave Thawley | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 27 2018 1:19 PM

Thanks very much for the info James.

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 27 2018 1:56 PM

Thanks!! 

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Bryce Hufford | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 27 2018 9:15 PM

I am pasting this quote from the second module in the NT course:

“3. Translation: Translate the Greek text and compare other translations. In this course I’m assuming that my audience knows elementary Greek, such as forms and basic vocabulary, but not intermediate Greek grammar and syntax. But even if you don’t know Greek at all, you should be able to follow most of the course.”

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 27 2018 11:21 PM

awesome thanks 

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 28 2018 7:15 AM

Bryce Hufford:
this quote

Thanks, repetition is the best teacher Geeked

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 28 2018 9:47 AM

Lol sure is 

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 11 2018 6:22 AM

Keith Pang:
Are the textbooks that are written needed too? 

UPDATE: I recently got the textbooks (on sale this month) which I didn't know even existed (they didn't at the time the mobile ed course was created). But interestingly, the text was written as a result of the mobile ed course...

"I drafted this book in summer 2015 as I prepared to record a course called “New Testament Exegesis” for Logos Mobile Ed in a studio at the Faithlife headquarters in Bellingham, Washington. At the end of that process, John J. Hughes from P&R Publishing casually asked me whether I had any book ideas in mind, and it occurred to me that I could serve the church by taking the course notes I had drafted for a teleprompter and revising them as a book. This book maintains the informal tone and personal anecdotes from those lectures."

Naselli, A. D. (2017). How to Understand and Apply the New Testament: Twelve Steps from Exegesis to Theology (p. xxv). Phillipsburg, NJ: P&R Publishing.

As well as...

I originally drafted this book in preparation for a course titled Old Testament Exegesis that I taught for Logos Mobile Ed in a studio at the Faithlife headquarters in Bellingham, Washington, in summer 2015. My colleague Andy Naselli taught the companion New Testament Exegesis course, and both are available at https://www.logos.com/product/117883/mobile-ed-biblical-exegesis-bundle. At the end of that process, John Hughes and the P&R Publishing team invited Andy and me to publish counterpart volumes, which are fraternal twins in every way—conceptually, structurally, theologically, and pedagogically.

DeRouchie, J. S. (2017). How to Understand and Apply the Old Testament: Twelve Steps from Exegesis to Theology (p. xxiv). Phillipsburg, NJ: P&R Publishing.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 11 2018 7:17 AM

I’ll be getting these puppies with my bday credit 👍😁👌

https://www.logos.com/product/137295/how-to-understand-and-apply-the-old-and-new-testaments

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 11 2018 3:20 PM

Yeah I ended up not getting the courses because of these textbooks. The textbooks are the same as the courses, just no videos. There is also a few added things the textbooks have that the videos don't. But if you like videos it is a good set of courses. 

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 11 2018 3:35 PM

Keith Pang:

Yeah I ended up not getting the courses because of these textbooks. The textbooks are the same as the courses, just no videos. There is also a few added things the textbooks have that the videos don't. But if you like videos it is a good set of courses. 

Textbooks are way cheaper too 👍😁👌

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doc | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 11 2018 4:11 PM

Keith Pang:

Yeah I ended up not getting the courses because of these textbooks. The textbooks are the same as the courses, just no videos. There is also a few added things the textbooks have that the videos don't. But if you like videos it is a good set of courses. 

Understand not getting both as a financial decision.  But not a bad idea to have both if you can ... as a couple of gents agreed earlier in this thread:

James Taylor:

Thanks, repetition is the best teacher Geeked

Keith Pang:

Lol sure is 

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Apr 11 2018 4:23 PM

Disciple of Christ (doc):

Keith Pang:

Yeah I ended up not getting the courses because of these textbooks. The textbooks are the same as the courses, just no videos. There is also a few added things the textbooks have that the videos don't. But if you like videos it is a good set of courses. 

Understand not getting both as a financial decision.  But not a bad idea to have both if you can ... as a couple of gents agreed earlier in this thread:

James Taylor:

Thanks, repetition is the best teacher Geeked

Mainly my decision was based on finances but like I said they are good courses!

Keith Pang:

Lol sure is 

Shalom, in Christ, Keith. Check out my music www.soundcloud.com/kpang808

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